Think I’m just going to add nothing to the debate but share articles, links and pictures that land in my inbox
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Thanks, this explains everything. You’ll find me elsewhere on Sotonians, I know very little about the Royal Family apart from the tragic early death of Caroline Ahern. 
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Well this is turning into quite a thread.
I do not give a crap about the royal family. Happily live without them taking up way too much tabloid/news and money. Though I’d like to see Andrew speak to some cops.
I found the whole Diana stuff in 1997 absolutely ridiculous. The mass grieving for someone we did not know. I do remember the day as I was working and all the radio stations decide not to play music in respect. Had to get my dad to drop off my walkman to keep awake. I was at a wedding the day of the funeral.
I am bored of seeing ‘oh they want privacy but they are speaking to people’. It isn’t one or the other. You can ask/do for both. We can also ignore it all.
The paparazzi and tabloids really need to be reigned. It’s sort of legitimate stalking. Sadly we also have the z list celebs from reality TV who need the tabloids and paparazzi as do their managers who are quite likely closely linked and sell crap and keep the whole sodding machine going. I’d say a large proportion of it isn’t in any of our interests. But god we love a gossip don’t we? See who has cellulite and put on weight or lost it or have a drug or mental health problem. It is pretty depressing. As someone who used to buy magazine I also was part of that.
It would be nice if people could be less of a dick to each other.
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It is depressing that a couple of posters continue to ignore the thread title and, well, you all know.
Alex sums up the issue quite clearly that list could be a lot longer imho
Nailed it. “The Machine”. There’s a whole philosofical discussion to be had right there for another time.
Over in Ozland, I haven’t turned on a tv for general viewing for over 12 years and progressively I have been so much better for it. The process was literally like drug rehabilitation but by golly gosh, I can tell you there ain’t no truth in tv messeging. Not one bit
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Markle said in the interview that when she was pregnant with her son, Archie, there were “conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born”. Prince Harry added that he was “a bit shocked” by the comments but said he wouldn’t identify who made them.
Given this, how on earth could the comments have been made before he had met her? It doesn’t make any sense, unless whoever made the comments was clairvoyant and knew that one day Harry would meet a mixed race girl, marry her and have a son.
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Proper ROFLing on this one 
I remember the day Diana died. I got in at 6am to deliver the papers only to be told to go home as most of the papers had not arrived. Then when they arrived at about 8am they were fucking massive, and I had to make 4 separate fucking trips, including 2 up Dukeswood Drive and Highlands Way with 30kg of paper on my fucking back.
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The death of Diana is irrelevant to this topic Meghan is still alive, so go start a thread debating her tragic death gang.
This topic has far more worrying points to debate. First of all, it is another Godsend for “Flag Waving Britain” they are all out on FB how anyone can be anything other than horrified by what people are posting “Weak willed Harry” “It was alright until she came out as being Black”
There are MBA thesis galore in the meltdown of the middle class today.
The other question - Mental Health. “She should be stronger” dear Lord have we learned nothing? The debate should not be about a stiff upper lip, it should be about a human being NOT getting the support they believed they needed. Most of you lot “support” people struggling on Twitter, why the "oh she is making it up attitude now?
Diana’s DEATH is irrelevant to this topic. Her TRAGIC downfall that ended so badly is incredibly relevant.
I am in no way taking sides here, but in @Donkey_Schlong fashion my questions are
- Is this again all down to a stiff upper lipped Old Etonian Protcol “Officer”
- Is “The Palace” still so “unwoke” (or in reality stuck in the 1950’s) that they didn’t see this coming OR have the ability to help resolve the situation
- Harry & Meghan said they were leaving. They wanted out. Seems the Queen did not “block” that. So why did the press keep going? They had won, they had “got her out” (or the old Etonian was celebrating getting rid of the wrong 'un)
- The statements by Morgan and others with regard to Mental Health are just vile. Where are the demands for him to resign?
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Don’t disagree - there are people that in one breath lament the death of Caroline Flack, yet in the next breath criticise and attack Megan.
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I’m genuinely surprised that in this day and age people still allow themselves to get so worked up about the goings on of a dysfunctional wealthy privileged “family”
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Yes but that is actually a blinkered view.
Having been “on the outside” I have seen how the “Royal Visit” helped British Industry over the years. (Yes but it was Randy Andy everyone cries - but this was before Maxwell & Epstein and involved others AND simply the actual “brand”. Jeez I even borrowed it and did "Royal Visits with partners to UN offices and others.
Equally this whole annus fucking insanely horribulus has shown the other side as you note of both that Family & the “chattering masses” in the UK
It’s not Phil, it really isn’t.
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No I was partially agreeing.
I hadn’t heard about Morgan’s outburst until just now, and you’re right, vile is the word. Personally I have no time for any of the medieval, Hans Christian Anderson nonsense that is the Royal Family, it belongs in the distant past, not in the 21st century in a supposed democracy. But I do understand why these two, especially her, decided that it wasn’t worth the candle, and decided to leave this dysfunctional family to it. I don’t blame them one bit. My problem is with them keeping their titles of Duke and Duchess, it does smack of cake and eat it. Likewise in the interview she clearly had a problem with Archie not being given a title. Again, cake and eat it. They want to make their own way in life, distance themselves from the Royal Family, but still want to keep the Hans Christian Anderson nonsense, which of course in the US will ensure they will never be short of dollars. People would have far more respect for them if they went the whole way, renounced their titles and reverted to plain Mr and Mrs. Practice what they preach.
They probably made a wise move relocating to America though, Californian sunshine, with the added bonus of there being absolutely zero chance of Uncle Andrew flying in for sleepovers.
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OK, Diana discussion on the “Was Diana Silenced” thread (name subject to change when the MI5/6 visit me), Woke Megan discussion here…
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One thing that irks me the most is them referencing each other as My Husband and My Wife, why can’t they call each other buy their names?
Agree with that.
Equally, there is a precedent and the Royal Family would be hypocritical at the very least for insisting on the titles to be given up “in a scandal”.
Considering RF is all about protocol that was impossible.
(Duke of Windsor who was also buried in Windsor Castle and he did marry Wallis Simpson who became Duchess of Windsor)