I don’t think that’s right Pap - not sure how you can come to that conclusion - not sure he mentioned poor kids anywhere, unless you’re saying that everyone that is at state school is poor?
On page 12, Pap wrote:
‘I was expecting that to be utterly refuted. Instead, the independent crowd doubled down and dutifully explained that it was only really kids with learning difficulties they didn’t want their kids co-attending with.’
And then confirmed you were referring to me with that post in a separate post on page 13. Effectively implying I didn’t give a shit about kids with learning difficulties. You are correct that no one else said it. It was just you.
Please keep denying away.
Not true either. What I am doing is putting my kids first for first time in their lives - I will now have weekends free to spend time with them.
And you’ve shown how much you give a shit about poor kids how exactly? By working for Ordnance Survey…lol.
ICT/Computing is a shortage subject for teachers currently…what are you waiting for?
There is loads even the most stupid can do to help their kids school. I’m living proof. Run an after school club, do some fundraising, just ask the school, how can i help. I guarantee they will be happy to find something for anyone. As @thecholulakid has pointed out, they are struggling with funding and it’s a parents responsibility to help, if you chose to have children, there is no excuse(I changed how i work and lost a lot of money doing so. Yes enough to pay for a private education), unless they believe only those with enough money deserve their kids to have a decent education. When did we become so apathetic about fairness for all children?
If you buy your way out, your just an enabler of the destruction of a fair society. Imagine all those educated parents fighting for a decent education for all. Government policies would soon change.
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I know I’m harp on but this is the aspect I want resolution on! I am obsess with it. If I could have either a) free food & world class education for everyone forever, or b) pap to say, ok, alright, maybe I grasp wrong end of stick with that particular post, I would take the latter srs. Fk the kids, read a book or something. Hunt local pets & wildlife if you need to pep up ur diet, like we used to.
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Listen mush! It is fairly simple, rich kids pay for the poor ones dinner. Rich kids pay more for their education but the education is shit mush so if they want to spunk their money away, that’s up to them mush. The only good point for them is they don’t have dumb bears in their class of 50 holding people back from learning proper. We had this with the slum kids and the posh basset kids who would get on alright but would never want on the same biscuit. This was cause the rich kids paid for the digestives and didn’t want to go twos up with the slum boys. Me and the flower estate boys would just mock both of those mushes for either being too rich and tories or too poor but not being labour enough.
Anyway, If you have a shit school near you just move mush. If you can’t move, then tough shit.
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You’ll find out what “mush” means if you ever go to Southampton, mush.
They have a Premier League football club. Southampton, I believe they’re called. And that’s _English _Premier League, thank you very much. Not the shite where your first team plays.
Mush.
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This thread is almost as bad as the social integration one, and I truly believe that with a bit of effort from everyone involved it might become one of Sotonians’ Golden Threads. They certainly both have posts by people who are 100% sure they’re right, and that’s a great start people!
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LOL! 
To be fair, I feel a bit sorry for Pap on this thread. When you’re from a council estate it’s completely shit, and even if you get out of it, you’ve never got fancy parents who can stump up massive deposits for your house or pay for your education.
The ONE positive, is you have permission to be a MASSIVE inverted snob, and be slightly smug about the fact you’ve come from a council estate, as you’re clearly a working class genius. That gives you permission to call ANYONE who doesn’t come from a council estate, a COMPLETE tosser and wanker.
This thread seems to not understand these rules of the world… 
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Yeah, but only if you have a chip on your shoulder about coming from a council estate.
For me, if someone’s done really well then I don’t really gissa shit how they got there. I’m not prejudice against people from any walk of life. However if someone says to me they’ve done well but grew up in a council estate (boo-hoo) I don’t think “fair play”, I just think about whether they wash properly, wear Tommy Hilfinger clothes or have all their own teeth.
I don’t mind Pap these days. He has moved into comical forum ‘character’ taking over from Barry who is more normal these days. I find it helps that the only material he has is that I don’t go to Southampton much (was there on Saturday so this is as weak as he is) and my hot tip for putting up with Pap…
Replace every time he says mush with “I am sorry for being a cock who will never admit I can be wrong at times”. This means the more angry and belligerent he gets, the more apologetic and honest he becomes. I think a few poster on this thread could use these useful tips.
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I was just about to call you a I am sorry for being a cock who will never admit I can be wrong at times you complete and utter I am sorry for being a cock who will never admit I can be wrong at times. I just wish that I am sorry for being a cock who will never admit I can be wrong at times Pap would I am sorry for being a cock who will never admit I can be wrong at times up his own I am sorry for being a cock who will never admit I can be wrong at times
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Quite the opposite, really.
Lou’s right on the financial stakes. I think I got fifty quid off the old dear in four years of University - other than that had to find all the money myself.
Then, when you’ve done years of working and your own kids are ready to go to Uni, the gov says “hallo there Mr Taylor, you are well off. Your kid can fuck off if she wants any money from us. Oh, and she’ll still be in debt to the tune of something like 30k, even after all the meagre help you’re able to provide”.
For me, if someone’s done really well then I don’t really gissa shit how they got there. I’m not prejudice against people from any walk of life. However if someone says to me they’ve done well but grew up in a council estate (boo-hoo) I don’t think “fair play”, I just think about whether they wash properly, wear Tommy Hilfinger clothes or have all their own teeth.
No-one can have a go at a kid for being sent to an independent school, but I reserve the right to think poorly of parents that send their offspring to fee-payers, particularly for grasping social mobility purposes.
Can you define ‘social mobility’ and then maybe provide your opinion on whether you feel it is a good thing or bad? You see I happen to think its a shit ‘label’ made up by thsoe who like labels as is just so much easier (and lazy) to compartmentalise people into nice easy to remember categories… Because you see, is it only a bad thing when it costs ou money, or is it all bad?
In the good old days, you see when your working class could be spotted by their grubby faces and flat caps etc, they would all be proud of any of their louts that got to go to the Grammar school - all clubing together to pay the ‘fees’ (expensive uniforms) - hoping their kids would do 'em proud. …
Now of course, you also have working class kids (heaven forbid) going to university to ‘better themselves’ and thus achieve social mobility, why they even let former peasents from the colonies become doctors and such … whatever next… fuck is there no end to this social mobility that you so dispise if you have to pay for it? Why, lets just dispise all the students, I mean how the flying fuck dare they fork out 30K to get a degree and try and be socially mobile. Surely we should tell them that if you have to pay for it its wrong and they should all fuck off back down the pit or factory or whatever?
(just in case as Pap has form on this… I am offering up this what is called sarcasm… it may be the lowest for of wit, but its perfect for those with the lowest form of intellect )
Originally posted by Chutney Ferret
(just in case as Pap has form on this… I am offering up this what is called sarcasm… it may be the lowest for of wit, but its perfect for those with the lowest form of intellect
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I love sarcasm(keep pointing it out please,as i don’t always notice), makes me feel all intelligent.
I find any Tokyo-Pap interaction very sexual.
Why do you think we do it Lou?
Keep going - don’t stop!
faaarrrrrrt
Yeah yeah I will definitely call Lou. Just sleep time now.