:tories: Tories in trouble?

Wow, where have I said any of the above? You’re making assumptions again, and you made enough of an idiot out of yourself yesterday doing that.

Lets go with a more rational precis shall we:

Pap: The Independent has said that there is an increase in some diseases linked to poverty, but not all. Therefore it must be true that the cuts the Government has made are responsible for that.

Me: My daughter is not in poverty and has had one of the diseases recently.

Pap: Well, I don’t believe you because the article says differently.

From the article you linked :-

Prof Tim Key, from the Cancer Research UK and the University of Oxford, said: "This decision doesn’t mean you need to stop eating any red and processed meat, but if you eat lots of it you may want to think about cutting down.

“Eating a bacon bap every once in a while isn’t going to do much harm - having a healthy diet is all about moderation.”

I think the emboldened bit is the important bit and how much is “lots”?

Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint

Wow, where have I said any of the above? You’re making assumptions again, and you made enough of an idiot out of yourself yesterday doing that.

Lets go with a more rational precis shall we:

Pap: The Independent has said that there is an increase in some diseases linked to poverty, but not all. Therefore it must be true that the cuts the Government has made are responsible for that.

Me: My daughter is not in poverty and has had one of the diseases recently.

Pap: Well, I don’t believe you because the article says differently.

Meanwhile, Sotonians waits with baited breath for Chertsey’s first cogent right wing argument.

I hope your medical diagnoses are not as misplaced as your ‘attempts’ at humour.

Is this rhetorical? I can’t really tell.

I started my post by saying “Occassionally, it’ll be fine” - which is basically, moderation.

I can’t tell you exactly how much, I didn’t write the report.

Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint

I hope your medical diagnoses are not as misplaced as your ‘attempts’ at humour.

It’s not an attempt at humour.

It’s a true statement. Most of the rampant left-wingers on here are actually proceeding from a position of conviction, so can you imagine how frustrating it is to see no conviction, coherence or passion in any of the arguments made by the other side?

Three words, Cherts. Three words sums up your entire approach to sticking up for the right wing:-

“No, it isn’t”

Now you may say that’s an acceptable position. Taking a leaf out of your own operations manual, no it isn’t.

Agree wholeheartedly with this article (certainly the tax credits part). This is one of the issues I had with Corbyn becoming leader, as it gives the Conservatives the license to go further right:

Originally posted by @pap

Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint

I hope your medical diagnoses are not as misplaced as your ‘attempts’ at humour.

It’s not an attempt at humour.

It’s a true statement. Most of the rampant left-wingers on here are actually proceeding from a position of conviction, so can you imagine how frustrating it is to see no conviction, coherence or passion in any of the arguments made by the other side.

Three words, Cherts. Three words sums up your entire approach to sticking up for the right wing:-

“No, it isn’t”

Now you may say that’s an acceptable position. Taking a leaf out of your own operations manual, no it isn’t.

I have said why I don’t believe this article is true? Not sure why you don’t think I have. Maybe go back and read through again.

The Tories are in trouble.

The truth is, the Prime Minister doesn’t have a response for those hard-working people who look set to lose out – many of whom may have voted Conservative at the last election. This government has demonstrated what it is all about now, and it can’t hide behind the “we’re for working people” line any longer: it is about cutting corporation tax for the wealthiest businesses, cutting inheritance tax for the 500 wealthiest families, celebrating the obscenely rich 1 per cent and cementing the position of the wealthy.

The Tories won the last election on a tide of support for work, rather than welfare. But it is this government that could hit working people harder than any government since Thatcher’s. The government today abandoned their line that eight in ten families will be better off and has instead moved to make this a debate about the wider economy. But this fell foul in the face of Corbyn’s sensibly-pitched grassroots mentality.

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Originally posted by @pap

Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint

Agree wholeheartedly with this article (certainly the tax credits part). This is one of the issues I had with Corbyn becoming leader, as it gives the Conservatives the license to go further right:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-corbyn-quote-at-pmqs-that-silenced-his-critics-once-and-for-all-a6712001.html

The Tories are in trouble.

The truth is, the Prime Minister doesn’t have a response for those hard-working people who look set to lose out – many of whom may have voted Conservative at the last election. This government has demonstrated what it is all about now, and it can’t hide behind the “we’re for working people” line any longer: it is about cutting corporation tax for the wealthiest businesses, cutting inheritance tax for the 500 wealthiest families, celebrating the obscenely rich 1 per cent and cementing the position of the wealthy.

The Tories won the last election on a tide of support for work, rather than welfare. But it is this government that could hit working people harder than any government since Thatcher’s. The government today abandoned their line that eight in ten families will be better off and has instead moved to make this a debate about the wider economy. But this fell foul in the face of Corbyn’s sensibly-pitched grassroots mentality.

Yes, but that’s due to them falling further right, not due to HoL voting the tax credits legislation down?

RT.com being very naughty.

Here’s the full version:-

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Not with decent parmesan, ev olive oil and fresh basil you can’t. And then what’s the point?

I also left out the chianti as well

Originally posted by @CB-Saint

Originally posted by @Goatboy

Not with decent parmesan, ev olive oil and fresh basil you can’t. And then what’s the point?

I also left out the chianti as well

And so you should too, a nice tempranillo is the way to go, or maybe a barolo

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The mince will be poor with a high fat content 12-20%, was do you put as stock? A high salted mix, great for young kids, for peoples information you need for a child a good quality mince that softens quickly otherwise you’ll 3 hours breaking it down, slow cooker an option? Yes for the mix but I have the time when I do it do others, same goes for lasange, bolognese and all mince dishes, you have to soften the mince or its like bullets.

Vegetables, how can one person load up for a week without a car and with children?

£42 a week to feed a familiy of four made me laugh out loud it really did, that right there is forum gold.

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Interesting point - how much per month would someone without a car spend doing a weekly shop in terms of transport - I often see taxis pull into asda in totton and outside the one in town. There has to come a point where the home delivery service starts to become more cost effective.

Speaking of veg - they would be a damn sight cheaper in the supermarkets didn’t do this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34647454 - That is bloody criminal.

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Umm I think it was £42 for one meal a day for a family of four for a week but still…

Well it would make you laugh as that’s not what was said.