i read bout it earlier i think in nutshell it’s that the basic wage goes up 13%, but you only get 30-50% on top for overtime/unsociable hours rather than dbl time like it is now, and to make matters worse you can’t do as many overtime hours as you used to bc they are putting restrictions like max 72 hours per week, and only working every other weekend
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Originally posted by @BTripz
I’m not for or against as I’ve never seen anything from them about what they’re actually striking about.
They keep quoting patient safety but I can’t see where that comes in to the new contract!!
It was a sincere(ish) question. I haven’t seen anything that suggests this to be the case.
I can’t find much that suggests this either? Looking at google:
Support for Junior Doctors Strikes
Opposition to Junior Doctors Strikes
I tried both, for a bit of balance. Neither really suggest this giant sea change as Cherts suggests. The only thing there really is the Torygraph article. Which basis the argument on some strange logic, this “backlash” is because opposition grew from 14 - 22% of a poll.
Whilst those that strongly supported the action grew by a larger margin, from 41 - 49%.
Backlash.
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Ppl always get less sympathy as strikes go on. At first ur like, power to the ppl! Stick it to The Man! Because you are sympathy, because we’d all like More Money. But then you find they’re still banging on about it month later, and maybe it’s inconvenienced you in some small way, and ur like, fksake. Just take the fucking deal already, cunts.
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Originally posted by @KRG
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
Be interesting to see what happens now, especially as public support is on the decline.
Is it?
According to the same interview, yes.
In my opinion, for every death that takes place, which would have been avoided had they been in work, a manslaughter case should be brought against those that didn’t attend work, and the BMA.
By the way, if you turn on 5Live now, you’ll hear all the angry public texting and calling in after an interview with the BMA.
This is the most laughable bollocks ever posted on here.
Seriously, makes Barry look coherent.
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sarb pls, be srs
Why?
I’m all for supporting the strike - as long as they don’t wear their ID passes on the picket line.
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In all seriousness, my issue is not with the Junior Doctor’s, my issue is with the way they’re being misrepresented to by the BMA.
The BMA have made out to their members that this is about patient safety. It’s not, it’s about weekend pay as that is the only one of the 16 points they didn’t agree with.
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
In all seriousness, my issue is not with the Junior Doctor’s, my issue is with the way they’re being misrepresented to by the BMA.
The BMA have made out to their members that this is about patient safety. It’s not, it’s about weekend pay as that is the only one of the 16 points they didn’t agree with.
My issue is with folk that keep peddling this line when they don’t know what they are talking about.
The Tories keep harping on about this 7 Day NHS. They keep using this as a weapon to whack doctors with, yet won’t actually explain what it is they mean.
They repeatedly lie about data to prove their points - i.e. including Friday & Monday to justify changes to Saturday & Sunday.
They are wanting to increase output (7 day services), whilst decreasing funding.
They are actively privatising huge parts of the NHS, and selling the profitable parts to their mates companies - who they often sit on the boards of.
The BMA do represent doctors, junior and senior. Even if it was just about weekend pay, the effects of that are serious enough to justify striking. They will significantly affect a lot of people’s incomes.
The decision to impose the new contract is totally unfair, and has never been done before. Even Tube Drivers, who will be replaced by computers in the next decade get treated better.
You’re gullible and naive in the extreme if you unquestioningly swallow the government’s “it’s all about wages” bullshit. It’s about the future of our health service, which the Tories ideologically despise.
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It says the other healthcare professionals will be available. doesnt change the context for me.
They were quoting a Mori poll from earlier in the year on Radio 4 tonight. They were saying the 74% of the public supported the strike action taken by the junior doctors provided it didn’t affect emergency care. That number fell below half if it did.
Love you to show me where I have supported the Government. In fact, I think they’ve been utter knobs, and I haven’t actually believed any of their rhetoric as I don’t believe them.
However, I also think the BMA are an absolute joke, and their initial action of walking away from the negotiating table when 15 of 16 points (the last being about weekend pay) had been agreed and called a strike is what caused all of this.
Either you’re too close to this to be objective, or you just don’t understand why the strikes were called in the first place because 90% of what you mentioned above is irrelevant, considering none of that was what they disagreed about.
Just because one side is bad, doesn’t mean the other side is good. It’s wise to remember that.
Yeah, but one side wants to destroy the NHS.
I’m on the other side.
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The ruling could hardly be more damning. It found Theresa May deported thousands of students from Britain on the basis of unscientific hearsay evidence. The Home Office behaved like a tin-pot dictatorship: detaining innocent people, accusing them of made-up charges without providing anything to back it up, denying them their day in court and then deporting them.
Today’s ruling could open the doors to the return of thousands of students to the UK, if – of course - they wish to come back to a country which has treated them so appallingly. And it brings to a shuddering halt Theresa May’s mass deportation programme of students. It also raises serious questions about the legal and operational functions – as well as the basic morality – of the Home Office.
And that’s what happens when that madwoman is in charge of shit, hence why I am so against her becoming leader…
This is all starting to sound like it did when the Blair government’s honeymoon was over.
Dept by dept it’s all going to shit and with every worrying development a few more voters must wonder if this is really what they wanted.
The NHS under attack, a chaotic nasty budget, vital services cut, policing non-existent in some towns and now the Home Office has gone native.
If Britain was a corner shop I think I’d shut for a few days to clean up, dump old stock, organise retraining and get some new staff in.
Reliable trustworthy ones who could do the job, and keep their fingers out of the till.
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40% of planned illegal immigrant deportations cancelled
I bet Dave will blame the last government…oh, hold on, I mean I bet he’ll blame the last, last government…
The removal of foreign criminals and illegal immigrants has to be cancelled in 40% of cases, a report has said.
Almost 34,000 airline tickets had to be cancelled in one 18-month period - with lack of staff to escort detainees one reason, the Independent Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration report said.
A separate report suggests officials have lost track of thousands of foreign students whose visas have expired.
The Home Office said it was working to reduce cancelled and failed removals.
In some cases, the government argued cancellations were “out of [its] control”, for example because of late legal challenges or disruptive behaviour of those scheduled for deportation.
However, the report said a lack of security staff to accompany detainees on their journey out of the UK was also a “major constraint”.
The recorded loss on unused tickets was £1.4m - equivalent to 4% of the total amount spent on tickets - although records were not always kept, inspectors found.
*Taken from Sfcsim’s Urgency, urgency thread…
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