:tories: Tories in trouble?

Which Hunt?

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Four hour A&E target abandoned.

Don’t have any mishaps, people.

"The health secretary also told MPs that hospitals may have to cancel operations and outpatient appointments so that staff can concentrate on the sickest patients. "

LOL. This is already happening you massive bellend.

And it’s the sickest patients that often exceed the 4 hour target as it takes longer to complete their assessment.

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No mention of beds being occupied by patients already discharged then Jezza?

Maybe if you cunts hadn’t butt raped the social care budget it might be possible to free up some of those beds eh?

Clueless bellend.

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He knows exactly what he’s doing. Privatisation, ahoy!

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I was going to leave it till tomorrow. But oh well.

Trident would appear to be useless as well as outdated. Let’s throw billions and billions at it because it makes us feel important(that’s going to be needed more and more in the coming years).

Will this class as misleading parliament before a very important vote. I do hope so.

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Where is Paxman when you need him?!

Her attempts at evading the question told us all we needed to know.

Something of a car crash question for her. She’s more evasive than Cameron and not as charismatic. During the short leadership campaign, she wore Kenneth Clarke’s “bloody difficult woman” with pride. A few more interviews like that, and it could be an albatross. If your aim was to get a yes or no answer to a very simple question, you could justifiably call her a bloody difficult woman on that evidence.

Two attempts to rope Corbyn into it. Good luck, Mrs May. You’re advocating we spunk billions of weapons of mass destruction that we’re not even sure will fire in the right direction.

Jezza thinks we shouldn’t. Strong position there.

Witholding that information from parliament before the Trident vote is incredibly cynical and I hope she gets fucking skewered in the press for it. Will she though? I doubt most people will even know this happened.

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She knew 2 weeks before but withheld it.

They know their mates own the press, so nothing to worry about. Bomber Benn must be very red faced.

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Isnt the whole point of a test to iron out problems so that when you want to fire the thing it works.

Also declaring to the world that at a specific point in time our main defence weopan has a problem strikes me as a fucking stupid thing to do.

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Well, shit. It’s bad enough having Nuclear White Elephant Deterrant that ur never gonna use, but ur hardly going to go round telling people it don’t even work. It would defeat the object. You can’t blame her for trying to keep that secret ffs.

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Not a good argument about tests. It’s been in service since 1999. Should have been fit for purpose from the start.

As for announcing it. Even our allies must be shitting themselves now. We can kill people anywhere. One day we may even be able to decide where(hopefully).

What a fuck up the whole thing is.

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I heard that the guidance system code is that old that it suffered from the millennium bug. When May hit the read button it landed in 1973.

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Come on, you are saying that just because it went into service 20 odd years ago - nothing should ever go wrong. Really??

My boiler went into service 20 years ago and the fucking thing decided to go on the blink just before xmas - according to your logic, it should have been fine because it was working in 2001.

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If there is nothing to hide, the PM could simply respond_ ‘I never discuss matters of national security.’_

Instead she ignored the question, looking shifty and dishonest.

I have therefore come to the conclusion that she is either shifty and dishonest, or not very good at her job.

Or all three of the above.

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Slightly more important for Trident to work properly(understand you felt different on the day). Something that has been in service for so long and can kill millions should be able to go in the required direction.

Image if we fire one in anger and then watch as it heads straight for london(is there a kill switch and more importantly, does it work). How many billions for something that can’t even compete with a compass.

Over 150 tests according to the makers and still can’t get the direction right. That’s a bit worrying.

We’ve been sold a dud(that is also obsolete).

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Originally posted by @Saint-or-sinner

Originally posted by @CB-Saint

Originally posted by @Saint-or-sinner

Originally posted by @CB-Saint

Isnt the whole point of a test to iron out problems so that when you want to fire the thing it works.

Also declaring to the world that at a specific point in time our main defence weopan has a problem strikes me as a fucking stupid thing to do.

Not a good argument about tests. It’s been in service since 1999. Should have been fit for purpose from the start.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/22/mod-cannot-fall-back-on-usual-excuses-to-explain-trident-misfire

As for announcing it. Even our allies must be shitting themselves now. We can kill people anywhere. One day we may even be able to decide where(hopefully).

What a fuck up the whole thing is.

Come on, you are saying that just because it went into service 20 odd years ago - nothing should ever go wrong. Really??

My boiler went into service 20 years ago and the fucking thing decided to go on the blink just before xmas - according to your logic, it should have been fine because it was working in 2001.

Slightly more important for Trident to work properly(understand you felt different on the day). Something that has been in service for so long and can kill millions should be able to go in the required direction.

Image if we fire one in anger and then watch as it heads straight for london(is there a kill switch and more importantly, does it work). How many billions for something that can’t even compete with a compass.

**It’s a test - thats why we have them, so that we can make sure they work when we need them. **

Over 150 tests according to the makers and still can’t get the direction right. That’s a bit worrying.

I am pretty sure if their had been 150 unsuccessful tests, we may have heard about it. We are not talking about scud missiles here. One missile had a problem with is code - it won’t take a rocket scientist to fix that !!

We’ve been sold a dud(that is also obsolete).

A couple of points

If there is any question mark over the system, a vote on it should be postponed until more information is gathered, even if that information is just for the cabinet.