It was an illegal invasion but what has that to do with Russia invading Ukraine?
Genuine question.
When was the last legal invasion?
Of anywhere?
Well by the meaning of the word its illegal, and wants constitutes legal incursions into another nation will not into the nation being invaded so Iād say at a guess there is no such thing.
Why are all the arguments for Putin whatabouttery? Iām assuming because without doing that you like a right dick for supporting him.
I would like to hear a decent argument as to why what Putin is doing is correct, fair and proportional.
There isnāt an argument
What he is doing isnāt correct, fair and proportional - therefore there is no basis on which to create a supportive argument
Sure, you can try to understand his motives but even then you are having to put yourself into the mind of a dictator and accept his logic, flaws and all
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Is anyone actually pro-Putin on here?
They certainly come across as being that - even if they donāt mean to.
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Yet we have nearly 1300 posts on this thread alone arguing about it.
What do you want to discuss? Something approaching reality or the twisted dark fantasy that you can literally get anywhere else.
Is the invasion justifiable? No.
Is the invasion explainable? Yes.
Is there any excuse for our mediaās omission of key information and context while our governments have banned competing voices? No.
Does the West have any position of moral authority on which it can say it is any different from the behaviour theyāre clutching their pearls over now? No.
Do we live in a country where people are easily led into false or incomplete narratives because we fear standing out? Yes.
Do I pay my own money to keep this site going so it can be just like everywhere else? No.
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Many posts on here revert to
āTheres two sides to the storyā
āOr whatabout the nazis in Ukraineā
Which is code for sitting on the fence at best or worse agreeing with Putin.
Go on, explain away and try and justify the invasion of a sovereign nation.
And if you want money or membership Iām sure people wouldnāt mind as even though youāre wrong 99.9% of the time the effort you put in doesnāt go unnoticed.
It is explainable in the context if Geopolitical issues.
Not your closed opinion of the world.
And this is the danger.
Putin is insane. A Dictator. Is the keyboard response.
Well, you keep hitting a well trained dog with a stick, eventually its gonna bite back
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That is bollocks quite frankly, this isnāt about expansion its about regaining lost territory and a buffer zone for Russia, if you know history Russia has been invaded many times from the Mongols to Napoleon and this has leaked into their cultural psyche and turned into a paranoia for some.
Why canāt a nation let another decide to choose what it wants?
You live in a nation under that very same protection and I can bet your bollocks to a barndance few Poles would ever want to be ruled under the hammer of them again and would want to leave NATO.
If Russia goes into Moldova will you blame them simply for having the audacity of having a country there right next to Ukraine, this isnāt anyones fault other than the invader, if this was about NATO expanding why the fuck is Putin invading into a country that is next to NATO?
And that is laughable, the Russian armies performance is that bad theyāve resorted to medieval siege tactics.
But itās not though is it, more like thatās how you want to read it ? š¤·
As @WorzelScummage says, there are a lot of posts here.
I feel weāre going over the same old ground with your posts.
Have you got anything new to add or do you plan on feteing us with your regurgitated flacid reflux?
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You all realise bazbot is actually my ex wife.
Never reads anything
Never heard anything
Is the only person on the planet who is right
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Wrong on many occasions and happy to be so, the irony is youāre willing or appear so for Ukraine to be thrown under the bus whilst they want the same protections as you enjoy.
Do you not think Ukraine is already under the bus?