đŸ‡ș🇩 The War/Invasion in/of Ukraine

Hearing some good news and will link fully when it comes out, the US and others are giving spare parts and aircraft to Ukraine, if true to its full extent it’ll be a game changer. Big if though.

It would appear so.

What, because I still call breadcrumbed chicken with a garlic butter centre Chicken Kievs?

Should I be mandated to change to the Ukrainian spelling, just like the Russian speaking population of Ukraine?

Should I take my orders from Ukrainian nationalists like you and Sainsburys do?

Mandated to speak a nations language?
Flipping that you’re supporting a planted language in another nation, like English in Leinster, I can see you in union shorts in Benidorm Pap.

Your worst nightmare Pap, Russian speakers refuting and failing to recognise an insane Putin. I think they prefer to be in Ukraine being Ukrainian speaking Russian than being Russian, its called progress Pap, you’d go all gammon in London with all those different languages


This bloke doesn’t hold back ha ha!

This will be Afghanistan x10 if goes urban guerrilla and Russia will lose, there is no way they can hold ground and control Ukraine, they can’t subsume it, they can’t occupy all of it, they can’t put a puppet in power, they can annex and have puppet elections of course in areas that are predominately planted Russians but even then they’ll still be sanctioned so I can’t see how Putin will have won anything, Russia will be sanctioned and isolated by the west and will have to cosy up to rogue nations and or nations that are regional rivals (China), anyone with any small amount of intelligence in Russia will ask what does this war benefit them and how does it benefit them?
In no way at all.
Putins legacy is one of blood.

I wonder if we get to this point, China decides it’s the right moment to reassess Taiwan’s sovereignty

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That would put the World into a recession never seen before if that happens, also Taiwan has had years and years to dig in and prepare, the Chinese do know though the US can supply and help Taiwan as would Japan and probably a few others in the region, how much the US would help would have to be seen though.
The unmitigated disaster of an invasion by Russia and the amount of huge losses sustained so quickly may deter them though as the Taiwanese have all sorts of defensive equipment and the Taiwanese will like Ukraine defend every inch of their homeland.
And if push came to shove destroy their semi conductor industry which would screw the Chinese up totally (and everyone else but it would hit the Chinese the hardest), silicon shield its called.

I think the Chinese have more claim to Taiwan than the Americans have on Hawaii.

The French may have a claim to Guernsey but what the fuck has that got to do with anything? And didn’t Hawaii want to join the US?

How soon do you think that’ll be a game changer Barry? Is the Ukraine Air Force fully up to speed in the maintenance and flight of the brand new aircraft types? My understanding was that it I wouldn’t be.

Not to poo poo the sentiment behind it but won’t it be a bit like you having the great idea last night of buying a brand new articulated lorry and filling it full of charity stuff and deciding to drive it from your front door to Ukraine today without a map or HGV experience?

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No. The Hawaiians were not lining up to join. They still don’t accept it now.

The 1993 Apology Resolution by the U.S. Congress concedes that “the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii occurred with the active participation of agents and citizens of the United States and [
] the Native Hawaiian people never directly relinquished to the United States their claims to their inherent sovereignty as a people over their national lands, either through the Kingdom of Hawaii or through a plebiscite or referendum”. Debates regarding the event play an important role in the Hawaiian sovereignty movement.

Its a ruse Cobham, it means there’ll be deniable ops going on, ie foreign fighters flying or already trained Ukrainian pilots ready to go, parts also is spurious, if the UK sends parts, then the US and then France you have a plane etc etc.
That statement is whatever you make it, fog of war and psychological for the enemy.

Good old copy and paste internet, what was the % of Hawaiians wanting to join the union, also how many want to cede now?

Go on have a look mush.

I’ve spent all the time I’m going to proving you talk shit, and going by the incoherent shit you write, perhaps copy and paste is your friend.

If you read the content first, you might actually learn something. It’d be a first, like,

Wrong answer Pap.

93% voted to join the union.

6% want independence.

You’re not very good at this are you?

What the fuck are you talking about?

In January 1893, a revolutionary “Committee of Safety,” organized by Sanford B. Dole, staged a coup against Queen Liliuokalani with the tacit support of the United States. On February 1, Minister John Stevens recognized Dole’s new government on his own authority and proclaimed Hawaii a U.S. protectorate. Dole submitted a treaty of annexation to the U.S. Senate, but most Democrats opposed it, especially after it was revealed that most Hawaiians did not want annexation.

Back to Ukraine


Zelensky

Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, has promised that his forces in Mariupol would “fight to the end”

Ukranian commander of Mariupol forces.

A commander for the Ukrainian marines in Mariupol said his forces were “maybe facing our last days, if not hours” and appealed for extraction in a Facebook post published early on Wednesday.

“The enemy is outnumbering us 10 to one,” Serhiy Volyna from the 36th Separate Marine Brigade said, sheltering at the vast plant with underground tunnels where Ukrainian defenders are pinned down by Russian fighters.

“We appeal and plead to all world leaders to help us,” Volyna said in the video. “We ask them to use the procedure of extraction and take us to the territory of a third-party state.”

Doesn’t even look like they’re speaking to each other.

Pap, when was this and when did Hawaii join the union, what are you on about? I thought you loved annexation?

June 27, 1959: Hawaiʻi voters approved the Statehood bill 132,773 to 7,971 votes

Will of the people Pap, surely even you wouldn’t deny them their rights?

Oh, so that’s only 60 odd years after it was swiped off them, then? After they’d lost living memory of being a sovereign nation.

Well, if you’re okay with that, perhaps we should just wait 60 odd years with Ukraine. Do a referendum then. If people vote in, no harm or foul now, eh? *

* I don’t actually mean this. Just pointing out the idiocy of your position, especially as the regions in Crimea and the separatist nations have already voted in overwhelming numbers to rejoin Russia or for their own independence.

Still, you’re consistent. As born yesterday on Hawaii as any other matter.