đŸ‡ș🇩 The War/Invasion in/of Ukraine

Ah the country getting cheap oil and treats it’s own citizens amazingly.

You think Russia has more weaponry than NATO and the west, ha ha half of Russias stuff is crap anyway, using conscripts in a war of attrition isn’t going to go well.

I think it was a fairly balanced piece, Barry. Praised the man for stuff he has done right. Pointed out where he has gone wrong.

I think it’s inarguable that he failed on his number one election promise; peace in the Donbass and with Russia.

Do you need that news from the Care Bear Nation before it’ll sink in?

Phase two of the war. Russians have already captured one city.

No doubt revert to Guerrilla war in the region time with all the memories of Chechnya, Syria & Afghanistan to come

This was a good one
 no idea as to it’s actual source

Russian state TV claims UK preparing to nuke Russia

Russia TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov claimed Britain’s reports of mass killings in Ukraine are part of a scheme aimed at justifying a nuclear strike on the country. Solovyov, a vocal supporter of Vladimir Putin and his invasion of Ukraine, suggested Boris Johnson’s Government is being harsh towards Moscow to build up a justification for potentially nuking Russia. Speaking to Russia 1, the pundit said: "It’s the perfect option for the West. "Not America, because it would be a pity for them [to be hit in retaliation.]
"But Britain strikes the country which is guilty of genocide, and which is upsetting poor, unhappy Zelensky.“And Britain, which possesses nuclear weapons, strikes us with tactical nukes.”
He continued: "They have their own nukes. Britain and France have their own nuclear weapons and carrier vehicles for them.
"You know, hypothetically. And for America, it’s the perfect option. First, they rid themselves of Britain.
"And then, well, we wouldn’t be supposed to touch them in retaliation. And can anyone understand what’s going on in Johnson’s head?

In the Donbas? Not so sure.

I genuinely don’t think Russia is interested in occupying all of Ukraine. Will there be partisans in the Russian speaking bits once the nationalists are gone?

I expect it will be more “inbound immigration”. Not sure all the locals are quite so keen as they were to be “russian”.

And unless it is a negotiated settlement, which Zelensky says he won’t sign, it’ll just rumble on and the resistance will just be labelled “unionists” or something

Beyond the Donbas it gets tricky because only Donetsk and Luhansk has declared independence and formally requested Russian aid.

However it’s interesting that they are also supposedly restarting attacks on Mykolaiv, which is a bit out of the way I would’ve thought, being West of the dniper. It’s also of course the gateway to Odessa.

Odessa is Russian speaking and the site of quite a bit of Ukrainian/Azov brutality. Wouldn’t be surprised if they advance to Odessa on grounds of denazification and then keep it for the gas.

Cut off Ukrainian access to the sea and inflict long term harm on their economy. And impact that of everyone who needs their bulk produce/coal/minerals

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Pap you don’t half talk some shite, this isn’t Spain in the 30’s. why did Putin march on Kyiv if he didn’t want it?
Of course there’ll be pro Ukrainians in the west, the Russians have been planted, its similar to Ireland.

What has Russian speaking got to do with it? Ruse for the politically and historically ignorant, can the English retake America or the whole of Ireland if we create a false flag and bomb the crap out of them?
Speaking a language doesn’t mean it their nationality, what a load of crap, Odessans are vehemently against the Russian invasion and imperialism.

Tie down a limited number of Ukrainian military assets thinking their capital is about to get conquered while the Russians achieve their stated objectives in the East.

If he wants it so much, why did he withdraw?

They started pulling out of Kiev as the remainder of the forces in the East were encircled.

Pap, the objective was to put a puppet Government in control, its unified the country, even you and your bias has to see that, the abject failure of the Russian army is known and not an opinion.
He withdrew because he couldn’t take the casualties and know Ukraine will be closer than ever to the west, and why do you spell the Ukrainian capital in Russian, have some respect man.

Good grief :roll_eyes:

Even you were using the word Kiev right up until the media started virtue-signalling and insisting on a name change.

Ffs Barry even Sainsbury’s are now calling their old Chicken Kievs, Chicken Kyiv’s. Did they change it out of respect or to continue to shift a substandard reformed breaded chicken product?

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why do you spell the Ukrainian capital in Russian, have some respect man.

Why do the French spell London as Londres?

Why are we Inglaterra to the Spanish?

Why do we say Par-IS and not Paree?

Do you reckon it might be because that’s what we’ve always called it, and only a deluded muppet would censor something like that? Before you ask, I include whichever deluded muppets that made the call to rebrand Chicken Kievs in a hurry.

That all said, I think you have to be a special sort of shitprawn to demand that others adopt your bottom feeding ways.

What are babbling on about, Kyiv is the name we call it as it’s the correct name, I know you love Russian but that’s a step too far even for you.

Fuck off, is it.

It’s been Kiev my whole life up until this mob took over in 2014.

Perhaps I’ll give it more respect on its tenth birthday.

Do you like imperialism?

Yes Barry, I love it.

Empire. Empire. Empire.

It’s all I ever say.

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