🇺🇦 The War/Invasion in/of Ukraine

[Cobham-Saint]

This is quite interesting

War in Ukraine: Separatist leaders targeted in new UK sanctions

Again, before Barry accuses me as a Putin Nosher, I can see why this might be something we’d do.

That being said, why haven’t we done the same with supporters of separatism in Norn Ireland? Too close to home or interest from the USA.

But as posted earlier to @pap , obviously:

@Not_Barry

I know geo politics, politics, current affairs and genuine news aren’t your thing

[Not_Barry]

Yes and the Russians haven’t raped and killed innocents before…

[Not_Barry]

@Cobham-Saint

Again, before Barry accuses me as a Putin Nosher,

I don’t think I’d ever accuse someone of that.

[Cobham-Saint]

Haven’t you already done that - check the thread and let me know.

[gavstar]

I think it was Chertsey who coined that term.

[CB-Saint]

You are playing the man there

[Not_Barry]

@WorzelScummage

To answer your other points - I don’t think many on this site, and certainly who have read this thread, deny how this has come about - I’ve ebeen preaching it to people outside of this site.

However, and this is the problem you Putin-noshers seem to have - it doesn’t excuse the response.

Here is the post I didn’t post.

I’m cool, not affected or upset, no need to apologise son.

[Cobham-Saint]

Apart from calling me son, I accept it was @WorzelScummage , but tbf based on your form it would be a fair assumption that it could have came from you, but this thread is a mess.

(Do try to stop the “son” bit though. It’s very passive aggressive and not big or clever )

[Not_Barry]

I wouldn’t assume if I were you, its better for all that way mush.

[Cobham-Saint]

Do you know what, I purposely left “mush” out of my post to see if you’d respond using it.

Ffs. Grow up Barry.

[Not_Barry]

Anyway can we get back on track.

[Cobham-Saint]

Which was the article I posted

Please stop trying to make out you’re the victim.

[Not_Barry]

Russian ship Moskva has been hit with two Ukrainian Neptune missles, 510 men onboard, not known if sinking or not.

[Cobham-Saint]

He has a valid point

Ukraine attention shows bias against black lives, WHO chief says

[CB-Saint]

He is entirely wrong

Strategic lives matters

The reason fuck all help goes to Ethiopia is that is has relatively little strategic value, until it does. Then the money will pour in

[pap]

I don’t think anyone cares about the lives at all.

They probably care more about the resources.

Strategy only matters if you’re planning a military campaign. Is that was NATO is doing with its encirclement of Russia on the Eastern border?

Or is it all the bounty in the Donbass?

[CB-Saint]

@pap

Strategy only matters if you’re planning a military campaign

Thats not true - strategy could be about regional influence, or resources as you highlighted

[Cobham-Saint]

@CB-Saint

He is entirely wrong

I disagree, but there you go

[pap]

What a bang up job the US has done of “influencing the region”.

Tom Clancy once wrote through his characters that war was armed robbery writ large. It’s a bit more refined than that. It’s an armed robbery where third parties pay the robbers during the robbery.

[Not_Barry]

Pap, Ethiopia issues is about a dam and that involves two other nations, the renaissance dam affects the flow of the Nile, a future war (I think I’ve said this) is on the cards between Egypt and Ethiopia, water wars are the future wars as we ironically move away from gas and oil.
The US and west will probably get pulled into that as well.
Anyway make a geo political thread so we aren’t distracted.