đŸ‡ș🇩 The War/Invasion in/of Ukraine

Like the one you’re defending Pap.

How do you work the civilised part out?

Is it civilised because it has been shelling civilians for the last eight years?

It must be civilised, because they’ve put NATO membership, undoubtedly the apex of civilization * into their consitution! Just like all civilised nations do, and certainly not the result of being a US-puppeted client state!

* Although NATO members do tend to de-civilise anyone they’re involved with back to the Stone Age. Libya has human slave markets now! Mmm. The civilization NATO members bring!

What the whole of Ukraine has been shelling Russian invaders for the last 8 years? Bit steep Pap even for your projective posts son.

Yes your mates are known for their love of Syria and its architecture


Nope, the Ukrainian government started shelling Ukrainian citizens after it told them they couldn’t speak their own language anymore and they revolted.

You do know Western bombs were falling there since 2013? And that the Russians were there legally and the West was not.

That’s the problem with only reading the headlines, mucker. Ultimately, we’re left with very little substance. As we’ve just seen.

Hence the if true - to be fair UK and US govt are only saying “if” and that facts need to be determined first

it also doesnt help when the Russian backed separtists come out with this crap

The reported incident - which the BBC cannot independently verify - came hours after a spokesperson for the Moscow-backed Donetsk People’s Republic urged Russia to bring in “chemical forces” to the besieged south-eastern city.

Eduard Basurin told Russian state TV the remaining Ukrainian forces in Mariupol were entrenched at the Azovstal plant and that Russia should encircle it and “smoke out the moles”.

Russian’s weren’t legally there unless you advocate Hitlers number in 1938, Ukraine doesn’t want Russia in its sphere, if the eastern Ukraine cedes so be it, but that won’t stop Ukraine moving away from its former master, you may not like it but it the truth, the east of Ukraine is being used by Putin, he couldn’t give a shite about it, why did it take him 8 years to recognise it? Maybe they should move to Russia son as they’re in the wrong Country, and Ukraine is a Country by the way.

I think you can accomplish that with tear gas.

You’d have thought if the Donbas was so pro Russian there wouldn’t be such intense resistance. Time to go home Russians.

No idea hence the word “if”

speaking of bollocks

If you’re going to shift topics at least try to keep up with yourself.

Russia were in Syria, the arm-rest you just threw in the pool to prevent yourself from drowning, at Assad’s request. Completely legally.

The US and UK air forces were not.

You can - I find it hard to believe that they are calling for a non lethal intervention

I suppose he got all that wonga from comedy. I wish Jimmy Carr had known how lucrative Ukraine was. He might have fucked off years ago.

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The numbers being quoted in that article are no where near $1.6bn - they are not even close to $100m

There are other articles. I’ll try to fish them out.

In the meantime, do you reckon that $100m quoted is a reasonable return for a shit comedian?

This boy has been a puppet since day one. Actually played the Ukrainian president on a comedy show. Reagan for dummies with less agency than Reagan had.

Pap, people can make money outside of the thing they do primarily. its called investing. Some people are fucking good at it and some people, due to their high profile (within their country) get access to opportunities that we can only dream about

Jay Z has made more money outside of music that in it
Bono made a fuck ton investing in facebook

Yeah, people also get big fucking back handers when the US is trying to get influence too. See Central America, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya etc.

Which category do you reckon Zelensky falls into?

I just had a search myself - it looks like the rumours originated from comments made by Illia Kyva, a ukranian MP who was part of the opposition party, a vocal critic of Zelensky and has made comments in support of the Russians during the invasion.

I know as much as you do as to the source of his funds - ie fuck all