šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡¦ The War/Invasion in/of Ukraine

Lets discuss them then, where do you source your media for us also to see so we can see if we share your opinion or at the very least have empathy with it?
Mine is the Guardian, Telegraph, BBC, Fox, CNN, RT (when available), Bloomberg, Der Spiegel, Le Monde right off the top of my head.

And can I say hatred of the state isn’t being a traitor is it? I know quite a few class war people who hate the state but love the UK.

Look back at some of your other posts . You’ve used the ā€œTā€ word or don’t you remember?

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That’s from The Scotsman which isn’t on your approved list. Can we believe it as it’s not on the BBC yet?

Yes, yes I do but not in this instance nor context.

It is now, so that’s ok

So Uzyk is on his way back from Ukraine to fight AJ.

Not exactly Muhammed Ali principles there.

Let’s not beat around the bush here, what Assange uncovered and reported were war crimes, committed by the good old US of A. Trying to twist this as evidence that he was a Putin shill as Barry is doing is dishonest drivel. He exposed evidence of US war crimes committed in plain sight and for this he must be punished. Still stuck in Belmarsh, drugged up to the eyeballs. Let’s be honest, if this happened in Russia, Barry’s brother and co would be screaming from the rooftops. It’s hypocrisy plain and simple, and no amount of screaming ā€œWHATABOUTERYā€ changes that.

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I don’t think Pap was suggesting re Assange anything other than that our own services aren’t above the type of conduct we so readily condemn in other states.

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The link between Russia and Assange is strong, see Navalny for Assange x100, anyway lets keep on topic.

Exactly. How you arrive at the conclusion that I was suggesting otherwise is puzzling.

Not as strong as our PM. Is he in Belmarsh?

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No but equivalence isn’t relevant.

It is if we want to have any sort of moral authority.

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If the anti war Guardian is proposing this is does make you think.

So many convoys on the motorways these days. Passed one of 5 trucks from Portugal, 5 others from France. Just an endless stream.
I’m very close to the border today. Different world.
Over & out.

What makes you think the Guardian is anti-war? When the Labour party had a genuinely anti-war leader, it threw him under the bus.

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For a start the Guardian is liberal and not particularly pro Labour and as much as I admire and like Corbyn he is out of his depth here and its been shown as much, Putin wouldn’t listen to him, you think he would? What concessions would Corbyn make so there would be peace?

He’s not relevant to the current situation so it’s all whataboutery

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