Love this.
Basically because if anyone suggested similar about our own government theyâd be labelled a dribbling conspiracy theorist.
Perspective is an interesting thing, init.
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The levels of transparency from the media though would help us in this instance, Russias media is akin to North Koreaâs, and as theyâre getting no where near their military objectives Iâd say heâs had a portion of sarin.
Is that a consideration? Russiaâs media is effectively banned for anyone except Poindexters with VPN.
I actually think that move makes the West look weak. We donât stand by our principles. We silence voices while at the same time, propagandise the fuck out of our own population.
Donât tell me youâve got to your late forties not realising this.
Well I can see from media sources the Russians in the last few days are losing their invasion and quite rightly getting their arses handed to them, vpn or not icepicks at the ready in the Kremlin.
The media sources youâre allowed to see.
Weâre practicing the authoritarian methods we claim to be against. And before you talk about Putin banging up people for fifteen years, just remember that Assange is still in Belmarsh.
And didnât Putin say he could take Kyiv in 14 days if he wanted to back after he annexed Crimea? I bet he wished he never said that now the little Napoleon.
Of course, but then again our government doesnât have a history of knobbling people that they dont like or are perceived a threat
So far two senior FSB heads have been arrested as has the head of the National Guard
The longer this goes on, the more this will happen, otherwise Putin has to blame himself and that will never happen.
Some people just cannot admit (or cannot afford to admit) that they are wrong and Putin is the High priest of that particular cult
Yes for being a Putin shill. Has he ever wondered or thought his information was being weaponised by the Russians and they were using him as a proxy? Of course heâs the fall guy, someone has to pick up the tab right or wrong itâs politics and life, dirty.
David Kelly. Julian Assange.
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Yes, letâs shoot the messenger.
Never mind that what he was reporting involved actual indiscriminate shootings of civilians.
If the West doesnât want to be embarrassed by things like this, then it shouldnât do them. Locking up anyone who points that out indefinitely is not the sign of a functioning transparent democracy.
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Julian Assange wasnât part of the government
David Kelly - there is no doubt he was under intolerable pressure at the time of his death. I appreciate that suicide, whilst being the official verdict, doesnât persuade some
Still, neither of these are government ministers / head of armed forces who have been arrested / killed on the the whim of a PM.
Can we please have a list of the media outlets weâre allowed to believe, or are there none?
I think if you want belief you go to a church.
Remember that the news sells stories. Very rarely are those stories completely true.
None of the news outlets that are regulated by Offcom because they are in league with lucifer
However Craig Murray does a line in bat shittery that is perfectly acceptable
Ones that agree with your agenda, echo chambers wholly encouraged, anything that remotely criticises the state right or wrong etc etc you know the drill proxies for their hatred of the state.
And weâre back into traitor territory.
Final warning before the 15 year gulag, Bazza.
Pap itâs not traitor or anything at all, where have I mentioned traitor? Being threatened for saying someone is a traitor when I havenât said traitor nor inferred anything of the sort. Criticism of the state is a good thing as long as it isnât a vehicle for something else, thatâs all. Donât be so spiky.
OK, so how are we meant to interpret situations, if we cannot regard what we hear as the truth, or part truth etc. Iâm not going to use Twitter as my reference for truth, because itâs Twitter.
for their hatred of the state.
I spend my own money on this site so I have a place where people can discuss things, not as a platform for you to prosecute your abuse.
Youâre posting at the modâs sufferance, probably against our better collective judgement, almost definitely readmitted because of guilt.
Turn it in or youâre turfed.