đŸ‡ș🇩 The War/Invasion in/of Ukraine

Accounts payables teams in Russia breathe a collective sigh of relief.

Support staff say “oh fuck. we have to deal with machines again”

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I said a while back the Chinese will always row back on their support for Russia, in shithouse terms they’re bloodbrothers but China still needs the US to function so they were always going to go back that way, the US economy is 10 times larger than Russias, other than cheap gas what can they offer?
Putin has damaged Russia beyond repair, reading last night that many sanctions will be lasting, huge brain drain from a nation that already has a decreasing population and huge issues with paying state employees, pensions and the army.

The world’s biggest market isn’t going to be buying anything if it’s skint though. Which it increasingly is. They don’t pay anything like the fuel duty we do and the pips are starting to squeak.

Pap that may be your wish but the reality is far from that, who do you genuinely think a trade war will hurt more? Fuel will be tight, expensive (very) but I’ve never seen such unity from the EU and US so they will ride it out and probably have to deal with undesirables but that is what the World is, an undesirable place much of the time.

Apart from Masses of mining resources and energy plus food to feed the workers, the literal fundamental requirements of an industrial manufacturing economy, in literally the next door country what the fuck does Russia have to offer China? Hmmmm? Nothing only fucking Weapons technology, Aviation technology, Space technology, a diplomatic alliance and a market for Chinese goods. Literally next door. Fucking useless.

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But apart from that
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Their aviation tech is so good they effectively stolen aircraft and won’t be able to get replacement parts, they’re not insured either, feel safe?
If they’re sanctioned who’ll touch it?

If China looks to the US (it will) over trade Russia will be more isolated, read some actual factual news, not what you want to see, how would you access how Russia’s invasion has gone so far?
4 generals dead.
Stalled and stuck.
Only one City taken
7000 dead
Run out of fuel, being towed by tractors.
Poor communication
Conscripts who’re poorly trained, equipped and paid

How is that assessment? Fair or biased?

Just wait till more stingers, javelins, NLAW’S and AT4’s arrive.

Weapons tech? Yes they’re showing all that tech in this theatre aren’t they?
Aviation? Go on.
Space tech? What good is that is its sanctioned?
Diplomatic alliance? Ha Ha oh dear, you’re not that naive are you?
A market that will close if the yanks put pressure on them as their economy is 10 times larger, the Russians need the Chinese, the Chinese don’t need the Russians as near as much but they need the US to function.

You may not like that reality but it is the reality.

Saint or Sinner always used to go on about Russia military prowess and strength, I bet he doesn’t think that now, its proven to be aged, ill prepared, poorly equipped and totally not up to the job.

Your assessment is biased, rooted in Russophobia and without nuance.

Your surety on literally everything betrays your ignorance.

Whataboutery.

That could be mirrored to you couldn’t it?

Anyway, how do you think the invasion is going?

Pointing out some realities, and that is only part of the issue. I’ve seen recent reports that the Saudis are looking to accept Yuan as currency in payment for oil. The dollar is money printed by fiat and its position as the world currency for buying oil is one of the big reasons it hasn’t collapsed. It’s a commodity to get a commodity.

If that changes, I think the US is in big trouble.

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Don’t know enough about it but I’d be amazed if it happened,

I honestly don’t think it could Barry. No doubt I slip up from time to time but I try to distinguish between things I am confident about and those I am not.

Better than it is portrayed by the BBC. Not as well as Putin would like.

Having watched quite a few Colonel Douglas MacGregor’s videos now (I’ve got COVID again so I’ve got the time). Im inclined to believe that he’s got it right. I’ve yet to see an equivalent military expert vouching for the Ukrainian side giving a convincing explanation for what we’re seeing in the maps.

I’ve yet to see a convincing explanation for why Russia would be performing so poorly and why Ukraine would be performing so well.

All I see is characterisation of the Russians as all completely incompetent which strikes me as wishful thinking.

Lets keep your assessment there and mine and we can sadly judge see what the damage is when this hopefully finishes.

All MacGregor is a crank of the highest order with axes to grind, a Trump aide and a Putin fan, Fox News, RT and you think he is balanced?
He said the other day the Russians are winning and don’t need to negotiate, how is he getting that information? What proof has he got?
I’d go with western media on this simply as Russia has closed down theirs so what does that say?
Russian newsreaders leaving and Putin calling people scum, arresting army staff and liquidating them isn’t reasoned is it? Thats not the sign of everything going well, its the sign of failure.
You’ll spin it how you want I get it but you’re only lying to yourself, this has gone so so badly for Russia (we’ll know longterm) that the media are saying the Russians have lost more already than the US lost in Afghanistan and Iraq, if even close that is amazing.

If people on here don’t know who Col Macgregor here he is, another Fox/Putin shill and mate of Tucker Carlson and Trump. The far right being bosom buddies with the supposed left as their agendas seem to meet.
Nevermind Fox News is a right wing propaganda tool for the US, a mirror of RT.

I never said he was balanced and I made if quite clear his links to trump when I posted his video recently.

His politics are terrible but on the other hand where do you expect to find a high ranking US military person with good politics? His politics is one thing but I’m more interested in his military experience, which is real.

Blimey :flushed:

My flight is about 75% full.
There are about 10 men on it.
90% of the rest are all young Mums with young kids. Very few speak Polish.
The others are the twins from that photo of Meesh & Mash that someone found.

Different world now

You see this is where bias comes from, how many others agree with him? How many say the total opposite? Pictures say a totally different story, the Russian media has closed down what does that tell you?

Is this a flight to the UK?

The Russian media has been suppressing media images of the war from the start before there was even any claim that they were having problems before their media was shut down in the West. I think It was a deliberate ploy to shield the home audience from seeing the truth of the destruction that was to come.

The flip side is that there is then very little media out there to counter the Ukrainian and Western media who have free reign to make the narrative that they want.