📰 The most exciting thing to happen in Salisbury since Stonehenge was created

[Saint-or-sinner]

I’d rather not, but thanks for the offer.

You make hypochondriac look like a poodle.

Hypochondriac? Another breed of dog, that looks nothing like a Poodle? You’ll have to explain if not.

I got to the bit where you ask for evidence that Putin’s regime has taken out dissidents and wonder whether you are being serious or just want an argument (the full hour by the look of it)?

Serious. If he’s as evil as he is portrayed, there must be a mountain of evidence. Is there, or is he the smartest most devious villain that ever lived?

Maybe we should compare his time in power and how many innocents have died worldwide through his orders, with how many innocents have died worldwide from the orders of our government over the same time period.

I really dont know where to start, but maybe we should start with some Russians themselves. There are dissidents (people who live their lives in Russia) who are liking Putin’s regime to the Mafia. The word “Totalitarian Regime” is thrown around liberally by the leader of the (banned) opposition party. Perhaps they are wrong? I suspect that they know more about life under Putin than you or I.

You can’t take that as a balanced view. That’s so one sided even the BBC wouldn’t claim it as evidence.

Having just watched your clip, thanks for the patronisation and I will leave you to it.

No patronisation intended. I put it there in reply to your dismissal of anyone that doubts 2 planes could bring down those 3 buildings, not to remind you of how scientific investigations work(plus I respect her views very highly).

[Saint-or-sinner]

It’s all gone quite, i wonder why.

Have the msm and government forgotten their rage, instant allegations and demands of punishment before any evidence could be correctly gathered and evaluated?

The Russians rightly want answers to a possible list of lies. Can’t blame them really.

I like lie n°7.

LIE №7 The so-called “Novichok” __ is a Soviet invention and it, supposedly, could_ have been produced only in_ Russia.

It is necessary to remind that “Novichok” is the name invented in the West for a group of chemical agents which were developed in many countries, including in the United Kingdom. In one of his recent interviews, the Secretary of State Boris Johnson confirmed that the United Kingdom has samples of this substance at the laboratory in Porton Down. Actually, we have a lot of questions to ask this laboratory. It would be interesting to know how they determined that the Skripals had been poisoned with a “Novichok”-type nerve agent. Because any reasonable person would understand that you can establish this if you have the original component to which you can compare the chemical which has been found. It follows that this laboratory has a stock of “Novichok”, and, possibly, also the antidotes which were used in the Skripals’ treatment.

In Russia, there has never been any research and development or experimental work conducted as part of a programme under the name of “Novichok”. I reiterate, there has never been a programme with such a name. In the Soviet times, starting with the 1970s, not only the Soviet, but also the British and American scientists were working on creating new types of nerve agents. This is how the famous VX nerve gas was created. And in the 1990s, after the breakup of the USSR, the Western special services exported from Russia a group of chemists together with the documentation. The specialists in the West began to closely study the documents and, based on them, started working in this direction, achieved certain results, which were made public.

We know very well that the “Novichok”-type nerve agents were in production in a number of countries. And, unlike our Western partners, who are constantly rolling their eyes and saying that they know something but that it, as they say, is intelligence data and they cannot reveal it, we operate in a different fashion. We work with open sources. Thus, on December 1, 2015, the United States Patent and Trademark Office contacted the Russian agency responsible for issues concerning patents with a request to check the patentability of an invention made by an American scientist T. Rubin. Here is this document (demonstration).

This document talks about the invention of a special bullet, the distinctive feature of which is that it has a separate cavity for equipping it with different kinds of toxic agents. When using the mentioned invention, the lethal effect is achieved due to the effect of this toxic agent on the human body. In other words, this ammunition falls under the jurisdiction of the CWC. The principle of operation of the bullet consists in equipping it with binary components which interact with each other upon impact. And this is what we read on the page 11 of this official American document, “At least one of the active substances may be selected from nerve agents including… tabun (GA), sarin (GB), soman (GD), cyclosarin (GF), and VG, …VM, VR, VX, and [attention!] Novichok agents.”

In other words, this document confirms that in the United States the “Novichok”-type nerve agents were not just produced but also patented as a chemical weapon. And not some long time ago, but just a couple of years ago – the patent is dated December 1, 2015.

Moreover, searching by the key word “Novichok” on the digital source google.patents.com you can find over 140 patents issued by the United States, related to the use and protection from exposure to the “Novichok” toxic agent.

These are the real facts, not some idle talk, and the response to those who insolently claim that the “Novichok”-type nerve agents existed and were produced in the USSR and Russia.

Anyone told the press? I’m sure they’d be interested and rather embarrassed.

https://netherlands.mid.ru/en_GB/web/netherlands-en/-/statement-of-a-shulgin-at-the-opcw-ec

[Polski_Filip]

A couple of days in Salisbury.

Still a big police presence. Access to Sainsbury still restricted with areas cordoned off. I was the only person in the store. - Tesco had no Smoked Gammon Joints or Stilton to take home…

Rumours

Bourne Hill old council offices now Police station is being closed for 8 weeks for decontamination so council workers now have to fight for hot desk space in Churchfields.

It is probable that 2 listed buildings Zizi - old Barclays bank AND Bishops Mill pub will need to be demolished

The Salisbury Museum cafe is now taking less than £50 A day no tour buses are coming to see the Cathedral.

The bench where they sat is still cordoned off. They may need to remove the whole topsoil and even demolish the Maltings.

Expectations are Wiltshire Council & Police will have budget problems as nobody expects any help from Westminster- the City is fucked

[Polski_Filip]

However SOME people are now doing Toxic walking tours and raking it in.

Saw a group of 20+ Asian tourists taking pictures outside the Mill pub…

None of the guides are from the City

[Saint-or-sinner]

Just cover Salisbury with persil and it will all go away. It was good enough for all the people there at the time and they already they know how to spread it, as they have covered Salisbury with chemicals a few times before.

[Goatboy]

Maybe we should employ the clean up guys from Douma?

vanessa beeley (VanessaBeeley)

[Goatboy]

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/the-silence-of-the-skripals-government-blocks-press-reports-media-change-the-record.html

[SaintBristol]

Seriously why ignore all the facts, and link this site as some kind of truthful reporting?

[Cobham-Saint]

Is it not? What sources do you have to say otherwise?

Happy to be corrected (that sounds decidedly dodgy in itself tbf )

[SaintBristol]

The sources I have are Associated Press, Reuters, Washington Post, The Guardian etc. There is a real danger that traditional newsgathering and journalism is lost.

[SaintBristol]

Also RTE News, who I worked with also in Salisbury. They were part of this conspiracy too.

[Saint-or-sinner]

Syria and Salisbury prove it beyond doubt.

Where is the investigative journalism from any them on these issues? In fact where is a single awkward question from just one of them?

Party stenographers one and all.

[SaintBristol]

Where do you get your information from?

[SaintBristol]

“Where is the investigative journalism from any them on these issues? In fact where is a single awkward question from just one of them?”

As compared to whom?

[Fatso]

The guardian did a great job uncovering the Windrush scandal and then reporting it unrelentingly until people listened.

[Saint-or-sinner]

@saintbristol you have just asked me the question i asked you. I take it you don’t have an answer.

[Saint-or-sinner]

Which makes it more worrying, as they obviously have the ability to investigate if they choose. Why haven’t they?

[CB-Saint]

Because they don’t beleive in your conspiracy theory?

[Saint-or-sinner]

Remind me what my conspiracy theory is?

There are numerous things about the Salisbury incident that don’t add up. No one asking questions. Doesn’t that make you wonder?

Where are the interviews with the public, neighbours, staff from the pub, restaurant? Where are the 3 people that were supposedly poisoned with a deadly nerve agent? Where is the woman(doctor, so she said) that spent 30 minutes treating them, but didn’t get affected, then disappeared off the face of the earth? Where is Pablo Miller and why have the msm failed to investigate him? Why were the symptoms the same as BZ symptoms? Why didn’t they die? Why did it take so long to say it was the door handle, even though lots of people touched it inbetween and the weather has been atrocious? If it was the door handle, why did it take over 4 hours to have effect?

I find it very strange when people don’t question known liars about accounts they are giving that are obviously false(Pfeffel is on record lying about what the scientists from PD said). This belongs in the white helmet realm of plausibility.

[pap]

As much as we knock the press, there’s not much they can do when they have this sort of thing bunged at them.

http://www.spinwatch.org/index.php/issues/propaganda/item/5998-two-d-notices-for-skripal-affair