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[lifeintheslowlane]

@Barry-Sanchez

So you agree homophobia is wrong? Women’s rights? Equality? There can be no going back on the progress made and there’s more to make, pray tell how can dialogue with a religious fundamentalist bring change? Ignoring isn’t an option.

@lifeintheslowlane

Of course it is…dialog isn’t saying I’m right and you’re wrong…it’s about changing attitudes not entrenching them.

What didn’t you understand about my last post? You might not agree but surely you understood it.

[Intiniki]

So going to the USA which doesn’t legislate on discrimination of homosexuals in all states and appears to be going backwards under Trump would be supporting them?
Ok.
Also saying we have won things and they won’t go back is wrong. We are seeing some hard won rights are going.

[Barry-Sanchez]

You know what I’m inferring.

[Barry-Sanchez]

I doubt it in New York where Trump is loathed apart from the upper East side, I certainly won’t go to Georgia until the law changes.

[Barry-Sanchez]

How are you going to change a fundamentalist Imam who teaches at a school claiming its his right to spout such shite? You won’t.

[Barry-Sanchez]

@Barry-Sanchez

How are you going to change a fundamentalist Imam who teaches at a school claiming its his right to spout such shite? You won’t.

And a Christian, Jew etc etc to makes things clear.

[Saint-or-sinner]

@Barry-Sanchez

You know what I’m inferring.

infer
/ɪnˈfəː/
verb
deduce or conclude (something) from evidence and reasoning rather than from explicit statements.

I’ve asked multiple times for evidence and got nothing. You haven’t even reasoned it through, so i believe your inferring that you are a liar that’s quite happy to lie when you have no argument.

Anyway, your not going to supply evidence or apologise, so let’s play Barry bingo. I think I’ve found one that covers most of your bullshit.

"Iran, remember, is a “terrorist nation,” which is not playing ball with the “international community,” which is why NATO has it completely surrounded and is flying hundred million dollar military drones up and down its coastline.

Also, they don’t like homosexuals (i.e., the Iranians, not NATO, of course), and they burn big American flags on television, and are generally Hitlerian in every other way. On top of which, they’re allies of Russia, the fount of all democracy-hating, fascist evil in the world today."

The Ongoing Restructuring of the Greater Middle East

[lifeintheslowlane]

A little at a time. You make secular life the more attractive option to the young and you eat away at prejudice and the stictures of fundimentalism. It takes generations…not months or even years…that’s why you and I are unlikely to see it.

[Cobham-Saint]

Don’t encourage them @Intiniki

[Intiniki]

My bad.

[Barry-Sanchez]

But there is no erosion, religion for many is their country, family and state before anything else, that is simply not compatible in a secular society where equality is a bedrock.
Islamic fundamentalism hasn’t changed or wanted to anywhere near as much as other organised faiths have and its conservatism is simply only compatible with the west by citizens ignoring each other’s practices as they find each other’s cultures or large parts abhorrent, that’s not diversity that’s failure to address what’s correct and right for all.

[Saint-or-sinner]

@Barry-Sanchez

But there is no erosion, religion for many is their country, family and state before anything else, that is simply not compatible in a secular society where equality is a bedrock.

Perfect description of the going backwards fast apartheid(based on religion) state israhell.

[Barry-Sanchez]

It’s not Israel per se it’s their border stretching and illegal house building. The Jewish state is light years ahead of women’s and gay rights, compare Pakistan’s human rights to the state of Israel’s.
I’m talking about legislation not what their army does, apples and oranges argument.

[Goatboy]

Unless you are a Palestinian woman.

[Saint-or-sinner]

It is the apartheid state. Nothing and no one else. They are light years behind the whole rest of the world and going further backwards fast.
Unsurprising to see you defend them.

[Goatboy]

Can you imagine saying the same thing about apartheid south Africa? Yeah, they’re not so hot on the whole treatment of brown people thing but hey equal pay for women at board level eh?

[Saint-or-sinner]

I’ll never understand anyone that defends an apartheid religious state, that regularly uses white phosphorus on children, for the crime of playing football, smiling and being born into the wrong religion…
Fucking backward(them and their apologists).

[Barry-Sanchez]

I’m not, I’m saying within the state of Israel there are huge benefits of a having a passport, work ID card and the benefit of human rights, the law is one thing and reality another though, gay rights in the Gaza? Womens liberation in the West Bank? How many Palestinians work in Israel?

[Barry-Sanchez]

It is the apartheid state I agree, the rights of its citizens are better than many Muslim nations though, that goes for Israeli Arabs who are protected by those rights, whether they accept and honour western rights in another thing altogether.

[lifeintheslowlane]

Bloody hell…and under Hitler the trains ran on time.