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And? What does that mean?

Playing your game…you work it out.

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Well I can’t and whether we like it or not the reality is Israel is not going to go anywhere, not a chance, the Russians, Chinese and the US need Israel so it isn’t going anywhere, I’d love a fully democratic Israel (millions of people don’t even recognise it which is backward as it is there) but that isn’t going to happen either in the short term, a 2 state solution is the only option but the firebrands at both ends don’t want that, many Israeli’s and Palestinians want to a 2 state solution I’ll add.

Just because you omit the word ‘whatabout’ doesn’t mean we can’t spot your whataboutery. You keep apologising for the Israeli state bazza. Just like the dumb orange bloviator, Mike ‘God’s soldier’ Pompeo, Mad John Bomb 'em all Bolton, Little Yaxley-Lennon, and that cunt Hopkins. Lovely company.

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No I don’t at all, its in effect a fascist state, a state with more laws and rights for gays and women however than in Gaza, just facts, just facts.

Thought that was Mussolini?

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It’s difficult to worry about equal rights when you are being systematically wiped out baz. You citing it as a plus point in the Israel column is just dumb.

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Wiped out? Doesn’t Hamas want to wipe out Israel? How many Palestinians work in Israel? Its a fascist state alright but wiping out is extreme, the majority want a 2 state solution, that is the road to peace.

This is fact, a military and political fact? Or is it a newspaper article thats from one side?

How many Israelis are being killed and maimed at the fences? Give me the numbers if you want facts. You are talking through your hoop and you know it. Lovely company you’re keeping.

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They’re fascist bullies but that is not the 7 day war or military policy, keep quoting newspapers, they may become a policy one day and not a point of view…

Yeah, i read the reply to me. It’s so fucking demented(sorry Barry but it is). We revel in burning and crippling children by the thousand, year on year, but we’re nicer to certain sexualities, so forget about our genocide.
That’s fucking demented.

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They certainly are and there is no rational defence of the genocide they are actively involved in(bit like a few other cases).

And now for something completely different

Jonathon Ive is leaving apple - That is a pretty massive deal considering he has designed pretty much everything they have produced for 20 years

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Where am I defending them?

They’re fucked. Bet it’s like that Star Tek Voyager episode where a guy from the ‘80’s nicked the technology from a crashed 24th (?) century time ship and drip fed computer technology into society kicking off the Information Age. Then ran out of stuff and tried to leave his present time to try and get more…

:lou_sunglasses:

If this is true then this is definitive proof the USofA has gone mad…

https://www.twitter.com/i/events/1144040201087381504

Definitive proof goes back to to at least the day when they got 11 and 9 around the wrong way. Much like their story of events that day(whichever it was).