Deporting some of the Windrush generation was a disgrace and Iâm not to sure what that has to do with anything.
The occupation of Ireland and planting was horrific so no I donât support it but I can understand it and as it was 400 years ago that is what happened to smaller nations, they were swallowed up whole and consumed, I fully support a democratic solution to a political withdrawal in Northern Ireland.
Now to colonialism, do I support colonialism? Of course I do not but again I understand it in its historical context, the British Empire was a mercantile one and an incredibly successful one at that for what it was.
It trampled on peoples, races and their Worlds, not right, not fair but again I understand it in for what it was (do we hate the Romans, Vikings and Normans?), we were largely ignorant and under the guidance of a bible once we landed and in turn used that as an excuse for the Empire, again wrong but I understand it.
There is a theme there though, homophobia, I couldnât support a state or religion that was inherently homophobic. just saying it has its issues or its only some doesnât wash at all, its state sanctioned and the other one its doctrine.
There is a theme there though, homophobia, where Barry forgets that all religions including our âGreat Christianâ one are fundamentally homophobic, with fundamentalists still wanting gays to burn in hell⌠so why pick on the Islamic faith in isolation? Are gay muslims more deserving of your defence than Christian ones, or African or Caribbean gays?
It is sad truth Barry that whenever you fly the flag for âtoleranceâ your examples are dominated by Islam and Russia, when there are countless other examples you could chose if you wished to.
You mistake folks sensitivity to calling out the Islamic faith for one of agreement with its doctrine⌠NOPE, the Islamic faith view on homosexuality is unacceptable⌠but what we call you out on is the fact you keep highlighting a single example, as opposed focussing on ALL who discriminateâŚits as ifâŚas if⌠er you were prejudiced or somethingâŚ
Examples or retract the lie. Not whataboutery.
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Youâre using fundamentally to totally, there are many gay friendly Christian churches, I call out homophobia and racism wherever I see it, I donât conveniently not see it as it doesnât agree with my agenda, womens rights?
If you follow a homophobic faith are you homophobic? How can you not be? Faith isnât a pick and mix and the same goes for all faiths, the Christian faith has made the furthest progress in acceptance of all, there are far far more Islamic fundamentalists than any other religion.
People are afraid to call things out for fear of being called the thing they are quite rightly accusing.
Tolerance isnât acceptance.
You keep talking about rights and wrongs and not addressing your own, defending homophobic imperialist invaders.
So no evidence, just another lie?
Well you support a state that has homophobic legislation and a faith that has homophobia in its doctrine.
What am I to believe?
If it walks like a duck.
FFS every country on Earth has homophobia, racist behavior, people who donât like others with long hair, short hair, right wing politics, left wing politics, people who drive BMWs. If we decide we will not talk to people who have different views or decide EVERYTHING they do is wrong then we are as guilty as theyâŚnobody moves forward.
You are a very âblack and whiteâ kind of person who in the last 4 years has not moved his argument on one single jot.
The Utopia in which you wish to live has to be won by dialog not confrontation.
As per going off topic again. Does going on holiday to countries with discrimination towards homosexuals constitute support?
Now theyâre the bastards we should really be aiming at.
Probably best not to back a lie up with another.
Youâre rather confused if you actually believe that. Calling out a lie by one state does not constitute support for another.
Still waiting for evidence of your claim.
So you agree itâs a fight worth fighting for?
To a large extent why wouldnât it?
I refer to my previous post to you.
Of course it isâŚdialog isnât saying Iâm right and youâre wrongâŚitâs about changing attitudes not entrenching them.
So you agree homophobia is wrong? Womenâs rights? Equality? There can be no going back on the progress made and thereâs more to make, pray tell how can dialogue with a religious fundamentalist bring change? Ignoring isnât an option.
So a liar that canât bring himself to put his hands up when caught.
You a tory MP?
Homophobia yes, but i doubt youâll get much agreement that the other two are wrong.