No matter what people think of Corbyn and the current state of the Labour Party, it is very dispiriting to see the number of people on various websites who say they will support May, and without a trace of shame. There are alternatives and even if you dont want to go down the route of tactical voting you could always spoil your ballot paper. The Tories are royally fucking this country over and the country is rolling over and letting it happen under the banner of there is no alternative. Yes there is. Dont vote for the fuckers!
Personally, I cannot think of anyone worse than Corbyn / mcDonnell running the show - I would rather have the two Eds. Then who - Fallon? Sturgeon? The mad woman from the Greens?
We don’t have a political pot to piss in.
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Were we all really wearing primary coloured shirts back in the late 90s?
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Blair’s name wasn’t on the polling card. Surely he voted in his own constiuency for himself
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That didn’t look very Sedgefield like.
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Do you know who stood against Blair in the 2001 election? A certain Douglas Carswell.
So May and her divided party win by default? Is she really the only option?
Word On Street is that everyone thinks she’s alright. Safe per of hands. I know it must sound strange, if ur a bro that reads stuff on here, or reads the actual small text below the headlines in newspapers, but trust, that is prevailing opinion on the Street, and that is why she is get Elected.
I do hope stupid people don’t buy into Mrs May’s ridiculous claim that voting for her gets us a better deal with the EU - that and using the term ‘strong’ are the key shallow PR messages we are meant to hear.
She is saying ‘give me a huge stick and I’ll only use it to beat foreigners’.
When in reality she will beat the shit out of the NHS, the poor, and the vulnerable.
Wake up everyone, all the clues are there.
Joseph de Maistre said it first.
You get the Government you deserve. Now go back and watch Towie & Big Brother like good benefit claimants.
You hoped the stupid would do the right thing last June.
Repeatedly hoping that stupid people will do sensible things is, well, stupid.
I wonder who the sensible, well-informed ppl will be voting for. Does anyone know any? Srs question no trolls pls
It won’t be Corbyn, that’s for sure.
Politics.
People moan that there is no choice.
When there _is _a choice, people moan that their choices aren’t near replicas of each other.
Not Labour, not tory(unless you hate the disabled), surely not liberal, you hate ukip so you’re going green?
Fair dos, @chertsey-saint .
Enjoy paying the real terms equivalent of 50K for each kid’s Uni education, or seeing your offspring fall into the same amount of debt.
Still might be cheaper than McDonnells new tax proposals
Trouble is that Corbyn is alienating the educated youth who still have socialist ideals but want to better themselves by working hard and aspiring to earn +£70k in the future. He seems to be driving them straight into the arms of the Tories. Perhaps that’s how you forge Tories?
The dividing lines in this election could not be clearer from the outset. It is the Conservatives, the party of privilege and the richest, versus the Labour Party, the party that is standing up for working people to improve the lives of all. It is the establishment versus the people and it is our historic duty to make sure that the people prevail. A duty for all of us here today, the duty of every Labour MP, a duty for our half a million members – including the 2,500 who have joined in the last 24 hours. Much of the media and establishment are saying that this election is a foregone conclusion. They think there are rules in politics, which if you don’t follow by doffing your cap to powerful people, accepting that things can’t really change, then you can’t win. But of course, they do not want us to win. Because when we win it is the people, not the powerful, who win. The nurse, the teacher, the small trader, the builder, the office worker, the student, the carer win. We all win. ‘We don’t fit in their cosy club’ It is the establishment that complains I don’t play the rules: by which they mean their rules. We can’t win, they say, because we don’t play their game. We don’t fit in their cosy club. We ‘re not obsessed with the tittle-tattle of Westminster or Brussels. We don’t accept that it is natural for Britain to be governed by a ruling elite, the City and the tax-dodgers, and we don’t accept that the British people just have to take what they’re given, that they don’t deserve better. And in a sense, the establishment and their followers in the media are quite right. I don’t play by their rules. And if a Labour Government is elected on 8 June, then we won’t play by their rules either. They are yesterday’s rules, set by failed political and corporate elites we should be consigning to the past. It is these rules that have allowed a cosy cartel to rig the system in favour of a few powerful and wealthy individuals and corporations. Rigged system It is a rigged system set up by the wealth extractors, for the wealth extractors. But things can, and they will, change. Britain needs a Labour government that is prepared to fight for people in every part of the country, our towns, villages, as well as big cities. A Labour government that isn’t scared to take on the cosy cartels that are hoarding this country’s wealth for themselves. It needs a government that will use that wealth to invest in people’s lives in every community to build a better future for every person who lives here. Because the Conservatives, drunk on a failed ideology, are hell bent on cutting every public service they get their hands on, and they will use all of the divide-and-rule tricks of the Lynton Crosby trade to keep their rigged system intact. Don’t be angry at the privatisers profiting from our public services, they whisper, be angry instead at the migrant worker just trying to make a better life. Don’t be angry at the government ministers running down our schools and hospitals, they tell us, be angry instead at the disabled woman or the unemployed man. Nothing left over It is the rigged economy the Tories are protecting that Labour is committed to challenging. We will not let the elite extract wealth from the pockets of ordinary working people any longer. So many people in modern Britain do what seems like the right thing to do. They get jobs, they spend all day working hard, they save to buy their own home, they raise children, they look after elderly or sick relatives. And yet, at the end of it, they get almost nothing left over as a reward. Compare their lives with the multinational corporations and the gilded elite who hide their money in the Cayman Islands because the Conservatives are too morally bankrupt to take them on. Labour in power will end this racket and make sure that everybody pays their taxes which fund our public services. We will overturn this rigged system. For all Theresa May’s warm words on the steps of Downing Street the Conservatives will never do any such thing. Seven years of broken promises show us that on pay, the deficit, the NHS, our schools, our environment. Wealthy friends It was their wealthy friends in the City who crashed our economy. How dare they ruin the economy with their recklessness and greed and then punish those who had nothing to do with it? It was not pensioners, nurses, the low or averaged paid workers or carers who crashed the economy. The Conservatives boast of record numbers of jobs. But what good is that if people in work are getting poorer and don’t share in the profits of that economy while the Conservatives look after the wealthy few? Our offer is to tackle elderly poverty and loneliness, invest in our economy, NHS and schools, to improve rights at work and the ten pound living wage. Britain is the sixth richest economy in the world. The people of Britain must share in that wealth. If I were Southern Rail or Philip Green, I’d be worried about a Labour Government. If I were Mike Ashley or the CEO of a tax avoiding multinational corporation, I’d want to see a Tory victory. Why? Because those are the people who are monopolising the wealth that should be shared by each and every one of us in this country. Everyone, and I mean everyone, has a contribution to make and a life to lead. Poverty and homelessness are a disaster for the individual and a loss to all of us. It is wealth that should belong to the majority and not a tiny minority. Labour is the party that will put the interests of the majority first, while the Tories only really care about those who already have so much. That is why we will prove the establishment experts wrong and change the direction of this election. Because the British people know that they are the true wealth creators, held back by a system rigged for the wealth extractors. What kind of country we want to have after Brexit Theresa May will insist that this is an election about Brexit. She will try to downplay the issues that affect people’s lives every day and instead turn the election into an ego trip about her own failing leadership and the machinations of the coming negotiations in Brussels. It is only Labour that will focus on what kind of country we want to have after Brexit. In the coming weeks Labour will lay out our policies to unlock opportunities for every single person in this country. We will focus on giving people real control over their own lives and make sure that everybody reaps a just reward for the work that they do. We will no longer allow those at the top to leach off of those who bust their guts on zero hours contracts or those forced to make sacrifices to pay their mortgage or their rent. The many, not the few Instead of the country’s wealth being hidden in tax havens we will put it in the hands of the people of Britain as they are the ones who earned it. In this election Labour will lead the movement to make that change. We will build a new economy, worthy of the 21st century and we will build a country for the many not the few.
Read more at: https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/politics/rigged-system-jeremy-corbyns-launch-speech-full/
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That’s just Pap’s censor-bot doing that
So they’ll vote for student loans, ongoing debt in the hope they’ll earn the real terms equivalent of 70K.
@mrtrampoline is a self-confessed Tory voter, has written reams on his salary expectations. I suspect that even he does not have this five year avarice.
Not saying he’d knock it back, like.
I think that kids don’t even think about the debt, it’s just a fact of life, an expectation that they’ll come out in debt, if you will. Sad, but yes I think there is an expectation that they will earn well in the future and why should they not want to be taxed for striving to do well?
I seriously think this is where Labour will bollocks it up on this point alone.