The 2017 Election Thread

Snide that, @goatboy

Get this man on Question Time!

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What is even more frustrating is that people buy this shit. In their millions. They have been paraded in front of me on my TV for the last few weeks. Spouting the same mantra that May and her cronies have been force feeding us. We need a strong leadership to handle Brexit. May is the only strong leader. The Tories are a stable party. We can trust her to deliver a good deal for the UK. That is all they seem bothered about. No interest in their policies or what another 5 years of Tory rule means for the underprivilged or for public services. It was the same with Thatcher. Forget thinking it all through rationally. Get someone in who is strong and stable and let them get on with it regardless. Last night there were a number of alleged for Labour voters who said they were now thinking of voting for May. Why? Because she was the only one who could be trusted on Brexit. Brexit is important, but there is an awful lot more going on that fucking Brexit! Wake up you dozy twats. Look at what is happening to this bloody country. We are going down the shitter faster than you can say “strong and stable leadership.”

Argh!!!

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Bollocks, integrity??? You’re having a laugh. He’s spent his whole political life opposing the EU, suddenly he becomes leader of a pro EU party and what happens. He’s spent his whole political life as a pacifist, now he’s leader and there’s an election he declares he’s not one. Daily politics ran a film from 2014 of him calling for NATO to be disbanded, he now supports it. The most telling response was the Labour spokesman who was asked "what’s changed in regard to NATO, Corbyns opinion or the facts. His answer pretty much summed Corbyns integrity up. “Jeremy wasn’t leading the party in 2014”. He’s sold out, abandoned principles, like every other politician. There’s nothing wrong with a pacifist wanting to be PM, but there’s a lot wrong with a pacifist pretending not to be one because he wants to be PM. In the words of another leftie , integrity,my arse.

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He gives a 7/10 assessment, doesn’t lie to the British public and the voters opt to leave the EU?

His party, miffed that he did not lie through his teeth like everyone else, then launched an unsuccessful coup on the basis that he didn’t do enough to remain.

He’s spent his whole political life as a pacifist, now he’s leader and there’s an election he declares he’s not one. Daily politics ran a film from 2014 of him calling for NATO to be disbanded, he now supports it.

Perhaps you want to qualify that level of support, @lord-duckhunter .

Corbyn has.

Jeremy Corbyn has signalled he would oppose a Nato request for additional British troops in Afghanistan, insisting a political solution is needed to resolve the conflict as he launched his party’s general election campaign.

The most telling response was the Labour spokesman who was asked "what’s changed in regard to NATO, Corbyns opinion or the facts. His answer pretty much summed Corbyns integrity up. “Jeremy wasn’t leading the party in 2014”. He’s sold out, abandoned principles, like every other politician. There’s nothing wrong with a pacifist wanting to be PM, but there’s a lot wrong with a pacifist pretending not to be one because he wants to be PM. In the words of another leftie , integrity,my arse.

I find it amusing that you would present a case so dishonestly and then moan about integrity.

The laffs never stop at Sotonians

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I don’t necessarily think Corbyn has sold out. He has taken a more pragmatic stance with regards to some of the issues that he fought for previously. He avoids or waters down his opinion on topic that he knows are imflamatory e.g. NATO, trident, abolition of the Monarchy. Whether that would continue if he got his hands on the tiller is anyone’s guess.

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As you say, he’s being pragmatic and that i assume will continue(wherever he ends up sitting) as he appears to believes in talking to achieve a concensus.

May on the other hand thinks we should just let her decide everything(doesn’t like an opposition that opposes). Or has she changed her mind again about her reasons(this is the woman that said no election). I don’t want a leader that lies so brazenly and changes her mind so often and completely. Look at her statements on the EU before and after the vote(does she ever stick to her principles. Does she even have any?).

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Bugger tried to link an image from FB never mind carry on chaps.

Exactly.

Hes like every other politician. But here’s the big difference, his supporters claim he’s different, that he says what he thinks and stands by his beliefs. It’s pony, he’s just like all the others. If he hadn’t been labour leader he’d have campaigned to leave the EU. If he’ll sell out on that principle, he’ll sell out on anything .

Emily Thornberry used to be famous for her flag comments.

Did her Tory opposite number up a treat today.

“That is bollocks”. Lovely stuff.

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Go girl. :laughing:

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The real beauty is that she’s playing the ball, not the man.

(although she did probably know he was going to hoof it into row IRA)

Arf.

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Michael Fallon. Must have been painful for him. Said that he meets lots of foreign leaders as defence secretary(in 2007 at a celebration party?). Going to be awkward now for tories to claim Corbyn had no right talking to the IRA as Labour were not in power. Nice friends.

Still, at least he has confirmed that nuclear subs at sea are safe, as they’re not connected to the Internet. Refused to deny that they run on fenestram xp though. Not very secure or stable.

Failed at his maths as well. £50m is not a “large chunk” of £1.9bn Michael. Don’t think i want to trust you lot with our economy.

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Not the kind of people anyone would want near their children, let alone deciding their future.

I was out campaigning in West Wirral yesterday. Arrived slightly late so didn’t get the brief or into the group shot, but had an interesting day. We were only going after Labour voters or don’t knows. The general aim was to tell them how important their vote was, make sure they got their whole family out to vote.

Dumbass here walks into a Tory garden by mistake. There looks to be a lovely old lady in the garden, raking biological debris into a pile.

“Hallo, I am Paul from the Labour Party”

She goes for me with the rake.

Charming as I am, I managed to calm her down and she fetched her husband, so it was two against one. They were both in their eighties, and clearly not for turning. I quickly realised this was number 7, not number 9, but manfully fielded their questions. I gave a robust and diplomatic defence of all of this accusations, praised his rake-swingin’ wife for being “feisty”*, and shook his hand at the end.

Still non-Labour voters at the time of my exit, they did agree to watch Corbyn on TV when the opportunity presented.

West Wirral? More like Wild West Wirral.

* Fuck, I am such a politician.

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_ Pam gets confused. She spends a bit too much time reading the Daily Mail, I’m afraid._

Don’t worry Pam, you’re not alone. :lou_facepalm_2:

It would appear that there are other skeletons in Fallons closet:

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This is damming to say the least.

The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, expressed anger that the government had not renewed a multimillion-pound security package. “In 2014, there was a one-year renewal of the protection system on the NHS systems which was not renewed and so systems are now not upgraded and not protected,” Corbyn said. “As a result, we’ve got this dreadful situation.”

The Lib Dems demanded an inquiry into why the Conservatives had cut cybersecurity support a year ago when it axed the £5.5m deal with Microsoft.

£5.5m a year to protect the security of NHS data and systems, doesn’t sound a lot does it. Can anyone justify this stupidity?

It gets worse.

_While the four submarines use Microsoft Windows software which left the NHS exposed, the nuclear submarines have been designed for almost complete isolation when at sea. The Windows software was installed on the submarines _ to save money _ rather than meet the cost of a _ _ tailored system. _

So a sub get a fault with it’s reactor. Has to come into port, whilst some angry 15 year old is playing God with MOD systems that are older than him(don’t forget, only done to save a few million out of a bill nearing £100bn). Are we to just hope he doesn’t fancy finding out if he can fire the missiles.

Strong and stable on defence my arse. They’ve risked a school level hacker starting World War III.

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