The 2017 Election Thread

There seems to be a massive air of apathy around here. Only Tory leaflets have been posted through doors for the council elections (and those only got done because the Parish Council chairman did it as a favour to our county councillor). There are no party placards in gardens or posters in windows apart from a number of Green posters in nearby Hythe (prompted probably in response to the local Tory plans to tarmac over acres of arable land and build a new town next door). What has become of this country? Do the Brexiters think job done and are now crawling back under their stones? Have the Remainers just given up and are batterning down the hatches? I used to laugh at the phrase “sleep walking into relegation” but as a country we seem to be sleepwalking into a right wing coma where the rich continue to thrive whilst the rest of us suck it up. I watched Question Time in horror last night as the right wing portion of the audience clearly believe that we have been held back by Europe and now we are free, are suddenly going to become a great nation again. Fuck me it was depressing. Someone say something to cheer me up please!

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How many party placards in ur garden sog?

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None Bear. I have never been one for placards or posters, although I have distributed a few in my time. But usually during election periods I see plenty around the area. Not so far.

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I saw a big billboard poster of corbyn face when I was drive along M6 other day, I thought oh, that’s nice. Least he’s giving it a go! But the tagline was like “More Debt, Higher Taxes”, so I’m not actually 100% it was Labour poster tbh,

Some obvious and some interesting stuff coming out of these other elections. UKIP are done. It’s official and pathetic. They’re not going flocking to Labour when May has a hard Brexit on the table.

The mayoral elections are also obvious in some cases. Both North Tyneside and Doncaster put in a Labour candidate in the first round. The West of England was ultimately won by the Conservatives, but went to a second round, a heads up between Labour and the Tories. On second preference votes, it was settled 52% - 48% in Labour’s favour. The Lib Dems came third in the first round, which is interesting, as the South West used to be their traditional heartland.

Saw a lot of Vote Leave posters on the way to Glastonbury last year. I am not surprised they’ve collapsed.

I’m not sure I understand your point, unless of course you misunderstood mine…

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Not really mate, was very easy to see that’s the correct conclusion, hence why we’ve been repeating it ad nauseaum.

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That’s v.nice + modesty of you to say that sarb, but I’m more inclined to agree with pap, that everyone on here except him is v.skillful expert in Politics :lou_smiley:

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Mixed results for UKIP really - lost every seat they defended but gained overall control of the Tory party.

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This is going gangbusters on Facebook, but doing poorly on Twitter. Thanks for the pity like, @krg_

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Labour’s mayoral candidate in the West Midlands, Sion Simon, says he thinks voters thought “we don’t share their core Labour values with the strength we should”.

He says the message he heard on the doorstep was: “We’re not confident that you’re strong enough in Labour values”.

But he says he doesn’t want to “personalise” the blame - “it’s our responsibility, the party’s responsibility”.

The former Labour group leader in Derbyshire, Dave Wilcox, saw control of his council pass to the Conservatives.

He told the BBC he wouldn’t be calling for Jeremy Corbyn’s resignation now, but if Labour were to suffer a similar defeat nationally on 8 June, the party leader should go.

He told me: "Genuine Labour supporters have been saying we can’t vote for this bloke because he doesn’t speak for me.

“We heard it time and time and time again on the doorstep. We are not voting for you while you have Jeremy Corbyn as leader.”

I think the word is ‘damning’.

Sounds more like someone sharpening their knives ready for an attempt to rise up in the party if a post election bloodbath ensues…self interest is evident.

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When I joined Labour in 2012, the party consisted of beaten down longtimers with no place else to go, or people on the right wing enthusiatically explaining that Labour’s big policy vision was to repeal the Bedroom Tax.

I have no doubt that there are people not voting Labour because of Corbyn, but I think that can be turned to an advantage. It’s really not going to be hard for him to confound expectations when they’re set so low.

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The media have done a proper hatchet job on Corbyn. He is a decent man and comes across as sincere, one of the few in Parliament. But it doesn’t matter what he says or does, he can’t overturn the damage done. For the first time in my life I am thinking of voting Labour this time round, but SOGs are too thin on the ground to save Jezza’s skin.

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May is still skating some dangerous electoral ice. The pensioners she has relied on are alarmed that triple lock isn’t locked in. The under 40 vote is pro-Corbyn, and after seven years of Tories bashing the young, you can see why,

I still keep thinking back to what my politic teacher told me.

People vote for the status quo when they’re doing alright. People didn’t feel they were doing alright before Brexit, and I doubt the facts of the ground have changed much since it was reported that 16m people have less than £100 in the bank, especially as we hear these frightening tales about personal debt,

I reckon the Tories have completely mistimed this. The local elections are bound to be a disappointment for Labour, but much more so for the Lib Dems, who bounced as well as Eric Pickles might after jumping off a tall building. The Tories may have won councillors today, but let’s face it, those councillors are only going to be in the news if they say something racist.

Labour got four new regional mayors today. The Tories won West Midlands, but it looks neck and neck. I’d expect there to be some scrutiny of that vote.

Even so, Labour has gained powerful voices on the media stage today - voices that will carry more prominence than before, especially if the Conservative lot repeat this “strong and stable” bollocks.

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