Originally posted by @Tokyo-Saint
Is the bible Barry?
Yes, you never answer a question with a question Tokyo.
Originally posted by @Tokyo-Saint
Iâll give you a clue - Sodom and Gomorrah.
Should we be keeping an eye out for Bible Belt Americans coming over here and taking our jobs?
Are the Americans coming to town? I want 3 pairs of stockings and chocolate.
You got 6 legs or the boys playing rough recently?
Oh I see what you did there,ahahaha,
Playing rough.
Have you ever stuck something up your bum just to see what it feels like?
No but I have had fingers up my arse by saucy ladies.
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Come on Pap is the Quran homophobic? Iâve been asking the other lads but they donât want to answer, would be because their argument point loses validity?
The UK leaving the EU unites both left and right, the supposed people of the left in this country can not understand this view.
Silly people.
In answer to the first question, I donât know as Iâve never read the Qurâan. Have you? Assuming that the Qurâan is indeed homphobic, how does this make anyoneâs argument lose validity? I havenât seen anyone claiming that it isnât.
Left and right (or elements of both) are opposed to the UKâs membership of the EU, or at the very least not supportive of said membership, this is true. But this opposition is for very different reasons. No Tory right-winger or UKIP type gives a toss about workersâ rights in this country being eroded by the EU (or by free movement of labour within the EU) - quite the contrary. Yet this is one of the issues that some on the left have a problem with. To say the position unites left and right is plain wrong.
Some people will do anything to be ITK.
At band camp Trevor put his French horn up my flute, itâs never in tune sinceâŚ
My postman?
Could be he travelled around a lot.
Of course it does if the goal is the same, they will all share a platform to meet their own objectives.
Coalitionâs are nothing new.
If UKIP and that lot help us exit Europe then I am all for it.
The Qurâan
âWhat! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, and leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but ye are forward folk.â Qurâan 26:165
No I havenât read it but that doesnât make the point incorrect does it?
Parts of the left and right are united in the same goal of the UK leaving Europe.
I donât really want to repeat myself ad nauseum; there has been enough of that already, but I am unsure about whether we should stay in or out. For me, it comes down to the question of whether the EU is able to reform itself, something its detractors say it canât do.
If the EU Commission shows no sign of moving toward democracy, then long-term, we just canât stay. It cannot be morally justifiable for an unelected body to have power over half a billion people, especially if ever wants to realise things like an EU wide police force or common armed forces.
Thatâs my reason for getting out, but I donât expect for one second, as some people seem to believe, that it would be a panacea for solving all of my problems The point was made several times last night; weâre underinvesting, and we plan to invest even less, at a time of unprecedented demand. Thatâd be a problem irrespective of the nationality of someone wanting to use public services.
It wouldnât solve particulary many problems at all but those problems would be our problems and we could go forward from there, its a starting point.
Cameron coming back with a briefcase on plane with a peace in our time sort of bollocks wonât wash, he is pro EU going to Brussels to negotiate a better deal? I bet they are shitting themselves, heâll be thrown to the dogs by the right of the party and heâll have Kenneth Clarke to tuck him up in bed.
An EU Army is laughable, this project has failed anybody remember Ireland *Lisbon Treaty) having to vote again as Brussels didnât like the first answer?
If two groups want the same thing for different reasons then their aims and goals are different. They may agree on the means (or at least part of the means) but that doesnât make them united. Iâd hope that groups of the left donât share platforms with those on the far right, whose opposition to the EU is driven chiefly by dislike of anyone or anything foreign. Whether such platform-sharing actually will happen or not I donât know. But allying yourself with people who hold views that you find unpalatable on the basis that you and they share one single wish only diminishes you.
The line you quote from the Qurâan could be about adultery and nothing to do with sexuality; it certainly reads that way to me (ah, religious texts - open to endless different interpretation!). Your not having read the Qurâan (and presumably knowing little, if anything, of its contents) doesnât necessarily make the point incorrect - it may well be homophobic. It does, however, disqualify you from making statements about its homophobic qualities, and indeed demanding an answer of others as to those qualities. A further point on this - exactly what point were you trying to make with your question about whether or not the Qurâan is homophobic? I canât see how the question is remotely germane here.
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Becuase I said Roger Helmer is a homophobe. Therefore the Qurâan/Islam being homophobic is relevant. Apparently.
Originally posted by @KRG
Becuase I said Roger Helmer is a homophobe. Therefore the Qurâan/Islam being homophobic is relevant. Apparently.
Yeah, I did know that. I just wanted Barry to give an answer! 
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It also says that wine is the devilâs tool, a direct and obvious slur against the French. Muslims are obviously UKIP members and want the same thing. In fact Barry⌠اŮŘłŮا٠ؚŮŮŮŮ â.
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I can say its homophobic not as I have read it but a very close friend of mine happens to be gay and Muslim, well he canât be both as he says, he can choose religion but not his sexuality, he is 43 and his family does not know only his sister does, he lives 100 miles North of where the family are and basically lives two separate lives, all very sad.
Can you be gay and a practising Muslim? Maybe but in silence.
KRG simply stated Helmer was a homophobic to make a point of his well I donât know but there we go, I suppose to try and weaken his argument of EU membership and I stated that the Islamic faith was homophobic (it is) as most of the refugees/asylym seekers will be of said faith.
If they adhere to that faith then do you expect them to respect a homosexual?
I think once they get to know you Barry, your sexuality will be the least of their concerns.