Sorry Bob, the first one is a bit harrowing, but the second is informative, when trying to understand how one person can view anothers life as so completely worthless(women and children included). The glee in their voices when they hit an unarmed person hundreds of metres away, that is no threat to anyone is very revealing and somewhat sickening.
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Iāve gone to some lengths to understand this issue. Iād still recommend Yoav Shamirās Defamation, which is one of the best things Iāve seen in seeking to understand it. Iāve linked it here before.
I take the view that no human is born with a moustache twirling streak of evil. I remember our eldest coming back from school at age five and asking us what a āniggerā was. A black kid had just started at her school, my daughter had been given the responsibility of chaperoning her around in her first days at school. During the prosecution of her duties, there was a five year old boy who called her young charge that name.
That boy was a racist at five years old, and there was really only one way it could have happened. He was conditioned to be so by the people around him. Iāve no doubt he thought himself utterly in the right to parrot sentiments heād heard elsewhere.
Shamirās film shows the same thing happening systematically, in the education system, in Israel. These kids are taught by their own state that Israel is the only safe place in the world for them, that the rest of the world is anti-Semitic, hates them and will kill them, given the opportunity.
Itās heartbreaking to watch, but it went a long way to explaining the situation for me personally. That five year old racist probably wonāt be a racist when he grows up; heāll probably end up thinking that the people who taught him those things were utter dicks. Israeli kids are subject to a curriculum which teaches them that the world is as dangerous for Jews today as it was in Hitlerās Germany, and that they have a natural right to the country they live in, and that the Palestinians are the invaders. What chance do they got of swerving that direction?
Astoundingly, some do, and it is Israeli dissidents like Yoav Shamir and Jonathan Cook that often provide some of the most insightful analysis of life in that country.
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Well, that aināt gonna help their cause is it?!
Yeah, thatās not weird.
I suspect the punishment will be the same as it is nowā¦death.
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Donāt think itāll stop anyone. Why would it, when as you say, death whatever. Imagine that being your only choice, humiliating subservient death, or peaceful protest death.
They shot more than 12000 people over the 6 weeks, that were absolutely no threat to them(apart from the baby that could almost sit up independently).
Over 2000 a week, every week, with dumb-dumb bullets, purely because that massively inflates the chance of crippling the innocent victim.
What fucked up psychopaths they are.
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Need one say moreā¦horrible. 
FFS.
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Ok.
So why does the UK do nothing?
Why does the USA do nothing?
Why does the EU do nothing?
The rest of the worldā¦?
Iām ashamed that we donāt.
Iām appalled that our elected representatives feel it is ok not to act.
I feel helpless that I canāt make it stop.
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If the UK/US did nothing that would be a massive improvement. Unfortunately we sell the cunts weapons and offer support wherever possible.
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At least the Chinese are on board:
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oops!
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The guardian are censoring Steve Bell?
Bell does some brilliant work and him and Rowson are about as close to reality as the present guardian can hope to get.
Have they explained why? Heās been accused before i think.
What a fucking shambles that paper has become.
Thinking about the media and Cook.
Doesnāt look great for the guardian.
Similar to the madrasas in Pakistan paid for by Saudi, this isnāt our foreign policy this is theirs the Saudiās, we just canāt bring ourselves to admit it.