I give thanks again most of my friends are out of the sandpit
I take it sir is recovering from severe amnesia. One of the black spots I suspect sir has in his memory is Iraq. It was quite a thing. Not only was Blair on the same page, he ordered his government to produce a dossier of new pages to justify this new invasion.
And this all happened in a time when the UK was in the European Union!
With the exception of Vietnam and the Falklands, the UK has been on the same page with every major US foreign policy decision since Suez.
I hope you get your memory back and can remember life before the Brexit referendum!
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The repercussions have already started. The vote from the Iraqi MPs probably won’t be observed.
Thing is, a refusal to remove these troops by the US is only going to create enmity towards the 6,000 strong contingent of US forces arrayed in Iraq.
Even if the US doesn’t see this as an occupying force, the locals will.
If true, wow.
Don’t hold your breath. They said the same thing about Syria months ago.
I thought the Syria thing was all by proxy. Do they actually have boots on the ground?
Everyone of them is a target*, so pull back(don’t believe out unless they want to nuke).
I don’t read western media, so you’ll have to tell me if this has been reported(2 day old news).
“Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdl Mahdi has now officially revealed that the US had asked him to mediate between the US and Iran and that General Qassem Soleimani to come and talk to him and give him the answer to his mediation efforts. Thus, Soleimani was on an OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC MISSION as part of a diplomatic initiative INITIATED BY THE USA.”
“Iraq’s caretaker PM Adil Abdul Mahdi said the American side notified the Iraqi military about the planned airstrike minutes before it was carried out. He stressed that his government denied Washington permission to continue with the operation.”
They murdered a man on a diplomatic peace mission that they themselves set up, against the explicit demands not to of the host country(who also lost senior officials).
That’s why the red flag went up.
*\There is no equivalent to Qassem Soleimani or Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis so that one could decide to do justice by killing them, thus obtaining revenge. Never. The fair retribution, the fair price of his blood is this, frankly and clearly: the American military presence in the region. (Ending) the American military presence in our region (is the only appropriate revenge for the death of Soleimani).
So basically, a real life Red Wedding.
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Yes. That oil won’t steal itself.
What the Yanks did was highly suspect, probably illegal, and morally highly questionable, but the bloke was a wrong’un who murdered quite a few of his own.
He wasn’t a nice bloke.
Reverse the situation. Imagine if we sent the Head of the British Army to France, and Russia assassinated him.
You would be in uproar.
They’ve probably tried, this was probably done to get at the Russians, Syrians as well as the Irianians and Iraqi’s.
Its all a proxy war, the Iranians have been involved in them for years, they’re not innocent are they?
The difference is that this Iraqi mother was a nasty piece of work. I doubt you will find an equivalent in the British army.
Give SOS 5 minutes and he’ll russle something up in a copy and paste blag effort.
Well, he was Iranian I believe.
Also, I am not sure that you can really say that military commanders in general are entirely different in character.
At that level, they’re all drawing a salary for working out how to kill people most efficiently.
And they all do this knowingly.
Not sure that you would find British general authorising the army to fire upon their own people who were demonstrating.
That is what this arsehole was all about
And correct he was Iranian, mistype on my part
Northern Ireland?
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don’t know - did a British general authorise live firing on a demonstration?
Anyway pap was talking about today - I have no doubt there were wrong ‘uns in our past - boer war would be a good place to start
And to be clear I would condemn them equally
So, going back in time, if the Irish, at the time, had taken out a British Army figure as he represented the tacit approval of atrocities of occupying forces in a disputed territory, we’d still have been up in arms.
Rightly so.
When this happens in the sand we seem to find ways to justify it, to see the victims as somehow less than us, less human.
And before we start thinking that the end might justify the means, we haven’t seen the end yet.