🔥 Grenfell Fire

:fire: Grenfell Fire


Couldn’t read this properly myself, so here’s the full text from RP’s FB account.

Says a lot of the things I’m feeling so much better than I could have done myself…

One reason why the Grenfell tragedy has shaken so many of us is because it exposes so much of what’s wrong with the way this place has been run for years.

We’ll have to wait for a forensic examination of all the many decisions that turned a series of risks into an appalling catastrophe.

But although the trigger may still be unclear, it is reasonable to identify a number of underlying causes.

Part of the background is austerity that has been particularly acute for local government.

But austerity seems to have become particularly toxic in a system where responsibility for vital safety decisions is so diffuse: we have ministers in charge of regulations, councillors funding an arms length management company, and a management company placing a refurbishment contract with the cheapest bidder.

There is naturally huge anger that the government didn’t ban the kind of cladding used at Grenfell, when such cladding is illegal for use on high rise structures in the US (as the Times reports today).

Similarly there is horror that the government never made it obligatory for the fire safety standards that apply to new buildings to be enforced at older blocks - that such improvements are only recommended, not obligatory.

But such lax or light touch regulation only becomes fatal in a system - such as we have - designed to drive down costs and save money, not to put the safety of people first.

It is a system in which those working for all the interconnected bodies that made the refurbishment decisions and gave the wrong safety advice to tenants are able to say - as if that makes it alright - “we followed the rules”.

It is a system in which identifying anyone who can be proved to be ultimately responsible for what happened may be impossible.

And as we saw in the banks before the financial crisis, when people can take reckless decisions safe in the knowledge they can’t be held to account, reckless decisions get taken.

The horrific corollary of a faceless, irresponsible system of public-housing governance is that many of the poor and vulnerable people who died in the fire are not even being given the respect of formal identification as victims - because they live on the fringes of the state, and the authorities seem unable to be confident they even existed, let alone that they have died.

There is a social contract between those of us lucky enough to have voices that are heard and those who don’t that we should not put them in harms way. Grenfell seems the most grotesque breach of that contract in my lifetime. It shames us all.


In the May interview that Maitlis did, May is asked to give a commitment to house the displaced in the RBKC.

She gave a weasel-worded response, something along the lines of “We will re-home everyone affected within the Borough, as far as is possible”.

Our politicians possess amazing language skills to obfuscate and mislead, but the addition of “as far as is possible” to that sentence makes it worthless.

If there is one bedroom available from the public housing stock in the RBKC, then as far as is possible means “all but one of the displaced will be housed anywhere but the RBKC”.

There’s a time and a place to show that you’re clever with words.

Grenfell isn’t the place and now isn’t the time.




link fixed forya NK.


Many thanks Modboy.


One thing I don’t get is why the fuck survivors are, at best, being sent to hotels and given a tenner for expenses or at worst totally reliant on charity from the community.

Hammond was on Peston and Marr this morning saying that the £5m promised is now available and ready to be distributed. Fucking sort it out then.

Here’s a tip: go to one of the banks, oh, I dunno, maybe one of the cunts that we bailed out a few years ago, and get a couple of hundred pre-paid credit cards with a couple of grand on each. Give them to those families now without a home because of this hideous tragedy.

How long does that take you mealy mouthed prick?



You’ve got my vote Goat!


From Manchester and the London terror attacks to this tragedy, it’s become pretty clear that there isn’t a lot wrong with our communities and the way that they support each other in crisis.

It’s our fucking leaders who need to up their game.




What website did he get that from Goat?

Damning if true though.


A firefighter’s account:

No wonder they were applauded away by the local community.


Quotes are from tv appearances this morning.


's alright, found it - it was from the Independent

Hammond is officially a grade A arse. He needs to resign now and never darken the door of politics ever again.


That’s an amazing read. Really brings it home, both the horror and the heroics.


Heroes every last one of them. PTSD is a daily hazard. :lou_sad:

These are front line troops working alongside us every day.


Bit of background on the residents concerns and who/how dealt with. Worth a read.



Thanks Goat. The one thing coming out of this is that the State is morally bankrupt - they need to change how they treat the masses, before the masses turn on them. Feel something in my water that this could be a summer of discontent - though it may be NSU…