Originally posted by @saintbletch
Classy Lou. Very classy.
I do take papās new values for this place seriously, and I do try to do stuff that helps make / keep this place different. And I really didnāt want to have to ban you for disagreeing with me.
I will push my luck just a little further if I may to suggest that IF the moderation didnāt stifle the debate, then something else made Furball decide not to be around anymore. And that ad heād done it once before, perhaps he has a wider issue with maintaining his membership here.
I do see the same current left-leaning nature of discussion (not necessarily membership) that you do. I also recognise the challenge that it brings to debates. As others have said though itās up to the membership to change that from within. It doesnāt happen if people chose not to share their contrary views, or worse do a runner.
Weāll get better at it Iām sure.
Bletch (Generally awesome)
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PS for the record I agreed with many of Furballās concerns over Corbyn.
I knew early on that I was never going to be able to run this place on my own. Itās not really anything to do with technical ability; more a recognition that I know what I can be like, and I like to have my more contentious thoughts ratified by someone thatās perhaps not as (ahem) passionate and benefits from being a bit more level-headed. The working theory is thatās bletch
Seriously though, itās a concept I have no problem dealing with, and I am more than happy for bletch to moderate me, especially if itās a decision that affects all. Personally, I think bletch, among others, has done an outstanding job in helping to establish the tone of this site. Itās a haven for thoughtful discussion, unbridled geekery and at times, juvenile puerility.
Itās fair to say that while Furball (and others) hold up those values pretty well, there are times when weāve all lapsed, and we get taken to task for it. Barry attracts untold crap for the crap heās told; heās still trucking along. KRG has got the wrong end of the stick a couple of times. My dad got a load of crap for making his bold statement, and continued to get it until heād clarified his position. Iām neck and neck for āclever things saidā vs āstupid things saidā atm. Iāve gotten myself into trouble loads of times.
In pretty much all cases, except Barry who doesnāt give a fuck, a bit of humility or at least an acknowledgement of the points raised leads to either a resolution, or a better understanding of that personās position. I have floated bigger controversies, dealt with a more partisan crowd, far worse abuse, and still didnāt run away. They had to kick me off that fucking site before I stopped posting there.