:covid_19: 😷 šŸ„ Corona Virus the thread for all your fears ā“

But, but you have a 4 in a million chance of dying from a blood clot if you get the AZ vaccine… and the virus has a 99.7% survival rate…

Went into the office today and did the lunchtime run with a matey who, as it transpires, has not had the jab, and neither has his wife. They both refused their vaccinations.

I query it, and if I’m honest I don’t mind his reasons. He’s just a little bit further along the scale of ā€œtoo soonā€ than I was. Now is still too soon for him.

I got the first jab, am waiting on the second. It hasn’t done me in, but even now, I’ve got a situational ache in both my arms that doesn’t seem like it’s going away, one coincident with where I got the jab - the other weirdly in the same place on the other arm. Anyone else got this, or am I just an old bastard?

You have reached the age of aches and pains

It only gets worse

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Yes and just imagine how many old and vulnerables you can infect…such fun. :lou_lol:

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Yay!
Jab 2 just been brought forward 2 weeks to Friday!
I can feel shit before watching Saints for a change!

Getting Jab 1 on Thursday and booked in for jab 2 in August…

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Yes but people don’t want to hear this type of negativity apportioning the correct blame, they demand the easy target that can’t be backed up with figures.

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Turns out this lady is a social scientist specialising in racial equality with no medical or epidemiology qualifications- pass the salt

Well Dr John Campbell has been saying the same for the last 4 weeks and he does have medical qualifications. It doesn’t take a degree in epidemiology, just a modicum of common sense.

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I think I take issue with the assertion that it has nothing to do with vaccine hesitancy when the vast majority of those now in hospital refused the vaccine

I also take issue with ā€œexpertsā€ being rolled out and their word treated as gospel when they are not qualified in the subject matter - it’s bad enough Putting up with Specialists and their conflicting views

In the absence of any data, on face value I would have thought that the travel restrictions would have been imposed at the same time as the rest of the sub continent

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It is inaccurate to say there is no virus suppression strategy. There is - its vacciantion.

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In a private medical insurance based world I would imagine opting out of a vax would at least increase your premiums
My guess is this will be the next step

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This is the same as last year - you book holidays at you own risk

If all those who have legged it to Lisbon find that it hits the red list tomorrow, they cannot whine (well they will).

Quarantine, tests, 5 hour queues, last minute disruption etc are a fact of travel right now. If you cannot accept that, then stay the fuck at home

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Exactly.

A very cogent fact that underlines the tardiness of adding India to the ā€œRed Listā€ is that at the time Pakistan and Bangladesh were, India’s infection rate per million was 4x theirs.
I doesn’t need an epidemiologist to tell you taking another 14 days to add India to the list wasn’t going to end well.

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Or that 8,000 people have landed from there in UK since it was put on red list.
And how many of them stayed in quarantine hotels?
How many rooms does the system have?

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If it’s on the red list and they land direct from India, they get bussed to a quarantine hotel and made to stay…

Now if they take an indirect route and don’t declare that they’ve been in India it doesn’t matter, and I bet that a fair few of them are selfish, entitled c*&ts that think they have more of a right to freedom than anything else…

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