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I agree that the decision to administer to certain age groups wasn’t govt led, however macron stating that the vaccine was quasi ineffective was: as was the EU commission defence of the EMA slow approval process by saying the UK was taking a more risky approach. The German media have also got stuck into the AZ vaccine and the German govt have failed to manage the messaging

Now that have millions of doses sat on the shelves because people have not heard their govts make positive noises about the AZ vaccines at a sufficient volume

The net effect is that the EU will be stuck in the lock down cycle far longer than necessary (some are saying at least two months) and that without considering the additional avoidable deaths this will cause. But hey, it is all in the name of solidarity

But the EMA were not ‘slow’ - they just maintained the same evaluation standards as expected. The UK expediated approval in all age groups by ‘ignoring’ the issues with powering of the study in the over 65s.

Macron may have been a dick about it, but that does mot make the scientific evaluation any less credible

I’m not questioning the medical evaluation - as for it being “slow” - the German govt obviously thought it was given the pressure they put on it to pull its finger out.

My point is, by the various heads of state / Eu etc doing down the AZ vaccine they have created a problem which will cost people their lives

Germany increases pressure on EMA to approve COVID-19 vaccine before Christmas | New Europe

But this is the result if people being stupid/ not understanding the scientific process and reacting to political rhetoric as opposed to listening to experts
 but them again the Frech and Germans dont have monopoly in that do they? :wink:

Yep, but governments should not be trying to influence independent technology assessors
 the protocols are there for a reason

Easy to say in normal times - when thousands of people are dying on a daily basis there is an argument to take a different path

Hundreds of Thousands die each day of cancer and other diseases
 should we abandon tried and tested approaches for nee therapies there as well?

Of course exceptional times means we should look at how to expediate, but this should be led by science and clinical decisions, not politicians

  • From 8 March - All schools will open with outdoor after-school sports and activities allowed. Recreation in an outdoor public spaces - such as a park - will be allowed between two people, meaning they would be allowed to sit down for a coffee, drink or picnic
  • From 29 March - Outdoor gatherings of either six people or two households will be allowed. It is understood this will include gatherings in private gardens. Outdoor sports facilities such as tennis or basketball courts will reopen and organised adult and children’s sport, such as grassroots football, will also return

so you can sit down on your walk with your friend

basically March shall remain shit

Secondary school pupils will be required to wear face coverings in classrooms and shared spaces like corridors.

The second step comes from 12 April would see major parts of the economy permitted to reopen:

  • Non-essential retail opens, hairdressers and public buildings like libraries and museums
  • Outdoor settings like alcohol takeaways, beer gardens, zoos and theme parks
  • Indoor leisure like swimming pools and gyms
  • Self-contained holiday accommodation, such as self-catering and camp sites

But wider social contact rules will continue to apply in all settings - meaning no indoor mixing between different households will be allowed.

Funerals continue with up to 30 people, and weddings with up to 15 guests.

The third step will come from 17 May - if the data allows - and will see the “rule of six” abolished for outdoor gatherings, replaced with a limit of 30 people:

  • Two households can mix indoors - with the rule of six applied in hospitality settings like pubs
  • Cinemas, hotels, performances and sporting events reopen - though social distancing remains
  • Up to 10,000 spectators can attend the very largest outdoor seated venues like football stadiums

Up to 30 people will be able to attend weddings, receptions, funerals and wakes.

The fourth step from 21 June will potentially see all legal limits on social contact removed, with the final closed sectors of the economy reopened - such as nightclubs.

The government hopes that - from this date - restrictions on weddings and funerals will also be abolished.

The four conditions that must be met at each phase of lockdown easing are:

  1. The coronavirus vaccine programme continues to go to plan
  2. Evidence shows vaccines are sufficiently reducing the number of people dying with the virus or needing hospital treatment
  3. Infection rates do not risk a surge in hospital admissions
  4. New variants of the virus do not fundamentally change the risk of lifting restrictions

It feels almost sensible - maybe Carrie should continue to “run” the country

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Of course it does, she is female

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Except she has let that complete idiotic **** into her most private of places


What are your thoughts on Margaret Thatcher, Tigger?

This Covid shit has got to stop

The Ayatollah and I have been looking for somewhere to stay for a week in late May

She said in passing whilst looking at cottages “What about Essex”

Essex??? Fucking Essex???

Jesus Christ on a bike

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Staycations going to get very expensive

Amongst all the trump election rigging bullshit I must have missed the 400,000 dead milestone.

As evidenced by the “cottage” I found in West Sussex at £16k /wk :lou_surprised:

Look chummy. The highlight of my extra-domestic activities is Runcorn.

Essex. First world fucking problems, mate. What I wouldn’t give for a nice weekend in Essex :slight_smile: