Plus the time to revaccinate?
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I had a test this morning at the Adanac Park drive through. No problems, bang on time and nobody else waiting in a large, empty car park. But they seem geared up for hundreds at a time, the car park is full of bollarded lanes.
From how I understand it (and remember Iām an expert as I watch Dr John Campbellās daily briefings) these mutations only vary from the original by a very small amount so the vaccines are unlikely to be rendered useless in the early stages of a mutation. As @Waylander says they are already tweeking current vaccines as and when they appear, as the always do with viruses.
Hope Iāve put your minds at rest. 
Depend on whether it is necessary but given current rates, only a few weeks.
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This is also my understanding of the situation. It would take a lot of mutations before a vaccine was useless
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70+ yrs old to be invited for vaccinations from today so hopefully nanny and grandaddy goat will be done soon.
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I was talking to Pa Btripz yesterday, both parental units are 76 so theyāll be getting their jabs soon, hopefully.
Mind you my dad isnāt so keen on getting it as he was one of the first people to get the early Flu jabs and he said it gave him a real bad case of the fluā¦
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Very unlikely that the vaccine gave him flu. However Flu vaccines are only about 60% effective so in all likelihood he simply got the flu.
The Oxford Astrazeneca vaccine isnāt a āliveā vaccine so there is no way he can get Covid from the jab. Itās efficacy is better than the flu jab. As long as you maintain a safe pandemic mentality after youāve had the jab and treat everyone you meet as potential carriers there is very little chance of getting Covid.
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Iām going for a flu jab in 15mins timeā¦
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Dubai?
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I wish
No, itās free.
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It was when he was in the army, they decided that all the Commcen staff needed the Flu jab so that they didnāt all come down ill at the same time and leave them with no Comms.
Unfortunately there must have been some flu going around as all the Commcen staff came down with flu after getting the jabā¦,very unfortunateā¦
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Reminds me ofā¦
āā My wifeās getting the flu jab before she goes to the Caribbeanāā
āJamaicaā
"No she decided all by herselfāā
(Ill get my coat)
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Yes, I saw that interview too and it didnāt exactly fill me with confidence either. Amazing how quickly the government can just change the narrative to suit themselves. āThe recommended 12 week timescaleā. No itās not. The recommended time scale is 3 weeks, and no amount of pretending otherwise will change that. Itās dishonest. Vulnerable over 80s gave their consent to be vaccinated on the understanding that their booster dose would be given after three weeks, as per manufacturerās recommendation. Many of them now having their second appointments cancelled, sometimes at a days notice, with no appointment for the booster dose, which must be very traumatic for them. They can be forgiven for feeling they are being used as guinea pigs without their consent. Doubtless the three month gap will be fine, and I totally understand the need to get first doses into as many arms as possible, but i do feel that the first group of people who had their first dose on the understanding of a booster within three weeks should have that honoured. Changing three weeks to three months after theyāve had the first one just isnāt on IMO.
Interesting that New Zealand and Australia have stated they are in no rush to start vaccinating, but of course they have the luxury of having the virus under control. They are making no bones about the fact that they are waiting and monitoring the situation here regarding changing three weeks to three months, effectively we are their guinea pigs.
Looking at statements from Johnson and Co, i do get the feeling that the overwhelming driver of the changes made is so they can boast of doing ābetter than Europeā, which they have been repeating like a mantra at every opportunity. The fable of the tortoise and the hare springs to mind, itās a marathon not a sprint. And of course the anti-vaxxers and assorted loonies are waiting in the wings, if, heaven forbid, reports did come in of people catching the virus a couple of months after being vaccinated, they would have a field day.
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TBF itās only the Pfizer vaccine that hasnāt been tested on the extended interval. Extending the interval on that vaccine is on the supposition the Pfizer will react the same as the Oxford Astrazeneca which has been tested at varying intervals.
If you have the Oxford Astrazeneca, which is increasingly likely now, you wonāt be treading new groundā¦i.e. not a Guinea Pig.
I was reading about this the other day - there is a good deal of scepticism about the Aussie PMs claims that they are āwaiting to seeā - The accusation is they have fucked up the vaccine procurement and are hiding behind the wait and see mantra
This from answers about the Oxford vaccine in the BMJā¦
"Thatās given us this really interesting phenomenon in our trial, which wasnāt intended at the beginning, where we [now] have some people who were vaccinated a month after the first dose and some people, because theyād been vaccinated before the manufacturing happened, who had to wait almost three months for their second dose.
So, weāve got this spectrum of people between four and 12 weeks who were vaccinated, and the regulator has approved that interval because thereās a lot of data over those different intervals. Absolutely fascinatingly, and perhaps predictably, those who had a longer interval actually make much better immune responses after the second dose. We see that with other vaccines, such as the cervical cancer vaccine."
Very interesting and reassuring question and answer session here: https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n86
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Comments from a GP re vaccines - love the last bit
āMost people are delighted and grateful and happy to receive it, weāve got flowers, weāve got cake,ā she said.
āWeāve got a lot of old people who literally have not been out of the house since April. Coming to see us, theyāre all dressed up! They have got their nice clothes on and theyāre delighted to actually be out and doing something that can make a difference to them in the long run.ā
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ā¦and some, and I really mean a few, have had a bath.
Mad buggers. 
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