:covid_19: 😷 šŸ„ Corona Virus the thread for all your fears ā“

Wrong - its not implied faith in government, it’s lack of faith in joe public - its not binary

I can be equally disparaging of both

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This is what is happenning in malaysia

Theoretically you can be, but in practice that is not what I’ve read.

If you think these people are selfish cunts that is implicit support for the government’s solution, and it’s bollocks.

I’m standing a little bit immune from that herd. I’m specifically saying ā€œI know better than the government on this oneā€. And I do.

The eldest and her boyfriend had egative COVID tests just last week. She hasn’t been anywhere since.

Meanwhile, you can still book flights out of London now.

Sorry peeps, if you want to bow down to this crystallised incompetence, be my guest. It’s really not for me.

And that’s the problem - you know best

And so does everybody else

Well, it’s not hard, is it?

The public knew best on the 10pm curfews. It knew best on shutting down the airports during the peak of the crisis. It knew best on the Dominic Cummings fiasco.

When a government demonstrates the serial incompetence of this one, the public is always going to know best.

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The public knew best when they filled the streets with demonstrations that Covid was a lie.
The public knew best when they packed out the beaches.
The public knew best when they held parties, raves and lock-ins.
The public knew and still know that wearing masks in public places is for some other idiot, but not them.

Yep. All the fault of the government.

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I think the vast majority of people were compliant during the first lockdown. I’ve never seen the streets emptier. The Cummings debacle fucked all that. Broke the rules and had the apparatus of government behind him so he’d get off.

Plus you then had a shitload of rules that made no common sense, such as the 10pm curfew, shutting down hospitality after declaring schools and workplaces safe, when in fact they were the primary causes of the infection rate surging again.

This has been mismanaged from the start to this very day.

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And I have been all the way through this. The Government and public’s idiocy is not intrinsically linked.

However, they’re both to blame for the way this has escalated, and will continue to escalate.

Does anyone watch the 3 podium afternoon Covid briefings anymore? I know there’s one going on now but can’t be arsed to listen.

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There are several problems. The obvious one is balancing the risk of infection spread against revitalising the economy. The government really don’t know where they stand on that. They’re desperate to keep schools open and, probably for different reasons, unis. Both are hotbeds of infection with the young carrying the virus home.

Then there is the issue of categorising areas by general levels of infection when there will obviously be huge variation of risk within areas, depending on whether individuals are shielding, isolating, visiting shops, restaurants or pubs, using public transport, in contact with schoolchildren, having to work in person with others or able to work from home.

So the same restrictions imposed in a Tier are simultaneously too lax for some and too severe for others. Of my children and step-children, three gave children of their own in schools. Every week there’s been some time out until tests have been done after an infection has been identified. My daughter also works in the NHS, having to face colleagues and patients. Despite the fact that I’ve been isolating strictly, I won’t be seeing any of those even for one day over Christmas. Not safe. But my second daughter and her partner have a baby at home, they both work from home and haven’t been out for 3 weeks. It’s reasonable to assume that the risk of any of her or my family bring infected is close to zero. So we have no qualms about meeting and are peeved that we’re limited to one day unless we form a childcare bubble, but that has pages of conditions and restrictions.

But I acknowledge that rules that ask individuals to assess risks and act appropriately will be ignored by those who are irresponsible and don’t care.

I suspect there will be a great deal of rule bending and breaking. Some irresponsible but, dare I say it, some probably perfectly safe and understandable.

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What on earth did the incompetent fool expect to happen after he made that statement at 4 pm on Saturday afternoon? It has emerged from various Tory leaks that Johnson knew he would have to cancel his Christmas present to the nation on the Tuesday at least. Which would have given people four days to make arrangements to escape London in a fairly orderly manner. But no, despite all the advice from the scientists, who clearly laid it on the line to him in the end, he blustered and lied his way through PMQ’s on Wednesday, accusing Starmer of the things that he knew damn well he would be doing himself three days later. His priority, as always, was himself, lying and making silly political points to try and get some good headlines. He has the mentality of a spoilt small child who thinks that it will all be fine tomorrow, problems will miraculously just disappear. He was eventually forced to face reality at the last minute when, in a staggering show of incompetence he gave people eight hours to get out of Dodge before it was shut down. What the fuck did he think would happen then? Right up to the last minute he was telling people they could go ahead with their five day Christmas plans, did he expect everyone would just shrug and say, ā€œOK, no problem?ā€ The really crazy thing is that if he had said at the beginning of December, as he was being urged to do by the boffins, that ,ā€˜sorry, this Christmas everyone will have to take one for the team and no mixing of households or traveling out of their areas’, most people would have been fine with that. As evidenced by all opinion polls taken after he announced the five day free for all, when there was a clear majority who thought it was a crazy idea. But no, in his desperation not to be the bearer of bad news, to not take responsibility and do the right thing which is a Prime Minister’s job, he funked it again which inevitably led to the scenes at railway stations on Saturday evening. Is it any wonder some people, given the circumstances, and it is a small minority said,ā€œFuck you, i’m not doing the right thing eitherā€.

He has fucked this up from the word go. Refusing to lock down at the beginning of March when the boffins told him to, doing the same thing in September when they implored him to have a circuit breaker lockdown . Now he’s done it a third time, despite being aware of the new strain at the end of September, when the boffins pleaded with him to lock down, and the lie on Friday by himself and Hancock that they had only just found out. Living proof of Einstein’s definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Because of decisions he made, or rather didn’t make, tens of thousands of people have died, the deaths lay at his door. And yet, in the face of all the open corruption and incompetence there are people who always excuse him, he’s doing his best they say. Wherever I’ve worked, ā€œnever mind, he’s doing his bestā€ isn’t exactly a compliment! All he has to do is ruffle his hair, quote a couple of meaningless Latin phrases or make a totally inappropriate joke, and the gullible fall for it every time and tie themselves in knots trying to defend and excuse him. It’s baffling.

Just imagine if, in a parallel universe a Labour administration was presiding over this absolute shitshow. Tens of billions of taxpayer’s money siphoned off to friends and backers, thousands of unnecessary deaths as a direct result of government incompetence, destruction of the economy and all the rest of it. There would have been a military coup by now for sure. I do wonder how much people are prepared to be shat on and lied to before the pitchforks come out.

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Good God, his hair!?!?

He’s starting to go full Trump

Biden has created a gap in the market

He’s a fucking mess.

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Some interesting analysis from the firm first out with an application. They are tracking around 1m people still providing information via their app, so it’s fairly representative.

Turns out that the capital is not the equally risky cesspit of disease it has been trailed as.

Thought I’d also share a personal story. Got a mate. Her family are all thinking of doing a Boxing Day dinner. The granddad is in a risk group, so they’re all getting COVID tests prior to the event.

As I said, people are going to manage their own risk, and it beggars belief that they can’t, or that the default behaviour is going to be seen as selfishness or irresponsibility.

For me, my mate’s plan of checking whether it’s a goer is better than the government plan, guaranteed to leave old people alone at Christmas.

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With regards to your mate - I assume that they will not have come into contact with anyone for several days prior to the test - as it takes generally 5 days between contraction of the virus and a positive result

This is why they haven’t managed to resolve the travel issues yet - a negative test on arrival is not guarantee that you haven’t already contracted it

Edit - I do get why they are trying to do this - I think they maybe under estimating the risk they think they are taking

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World beating covid strain

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