Thatâs the most sensible thing you have said.
No point freaking out in the meantime as there are no numbers that suggest itâs the sensible thing to do.
Panic about our overstretched health service all you like, but this non catastrophe didnât cause it.
Sorry old people(and everyone else by the looks of it), but this is how nature works. Basically, youâve had your share, so accept the movement of time.
During any two weeks of self imposed hiding from reality Ernest Becker should be compulsory reading
Itâs my mumâs 80th in two weeks. Her and my dad are away i donât know where for the weekend. What do you think their(or mine) levels of concern are?
They die when they die, nothing to regret(might even be a blessing for my dad).
Fear ends it long before the last breath. Who would want to that?
Are you seriously suggesting that those of us past their three score years and ten should be grateful to have reached this far, and should now be happy to sacrifice themselves at the alter of Cummings, Johnson and the rest of the weirdos and misfits in their little experiment? Surely not! They can fuck right off.
Public Health say an average of 17k people die from the Flu each year (based on the last 10 years I think). Thatâs 326 deaths from Flu every week.
I feel for those who have lost loved ones to the virus. And no doubt the numbers will get worse. But over 300 die every week from the Flu, just in the UK, and they get zero mention, nor is anyone trying to stamp out the Flu.
Public request to take stronger measures of social distancing across the UK with immediate effect
14th March 2020
(last update: 14th March 2020, 23:00)
As scientists living and working in the UK, we would like to express our concern about the course of action announced by the Government on 12th March 2020 regarding the Coronavirus outbreak. In particular, we are deeply preoccupied by the timeline of the proposed plan, which aims at delaying social distancing measures even further.
The current data about the number of infections in the UK is in line with the growth curves already observed in other countries, including Italy, Spain, France, and Germany [1]. The same data suggests that the number of infected will be in the order of dozens of thousands within a few days.
Under unconstrained growth, this outbreak will affect millions of people in the next few weeks. This will most probably put the NHS at serious risk of not being able to cope with the flow of patients needing intensive care, as the number of ICU beds in the UK is not larger than that available in other neighbouring countries with a similar population [2]. Going for âherd immunityâ at this point does not seem a viable option, as this will put NHS at an even stronger level of stress, risking many more lives than necessary.
By putting in place social distancing measures now, the growth can be slowed down dramatically, and thousands of lives can be spared. We consider the social distancing measures taken as of today as insufficient, and we believe that additional and more restrictive measures should be taken immediately, as it is already happening in other countries across the world.
We urge anyone who has sympathy with our views, and access to the government strategy group, to make our concerns more widely known.
Charlie Brooker is exactly right on this. If Robert Peston is correct and has been given this information, it is bizarre that government sources are telling him so he can tell us rather than explaining what theyâre doing. These are major decisions that will have huge impacts on people.
" People over 70 will be instructed by the government to stay in strict isolation at home or in care homes for four months, under a âwartime-styleâ mobilisation effort by the government likely to be enforced within the next 20 days.
It is part of a series of measures being prepared by the prime minister, health secretary, chief medical officer and chief scientific adviser to prevent the health service from âfalling overâ and to save lives as Covid-19 becomes an epidemic in the UK.
Other measures already being planned include:
the forced requisitioning of hotels and other buildings as temporary hospitals;
the requisitioning of private hospitals as emergency hospitals;
temporary closure of pubs, bars and restaurants - some time after next weekendâs ban on mass gatherings;
emergency manufacture by several companies of respirators that would be necessary to keep alive those who become acutely ill;
the closure of schools for perhaps a few weeks, but with skeleton staff kept on to provide childcare for key workers in the NHS and police."
Yep.
The Government has dropped the ball too. Nobody is listening to them. Sporting bodies cancelling events before they are instructed to. Now Universities (Liverpool and Durham so far) closing from Monday.
Johnson needs to get off of his fat fucking arse and start leading before it all goes to shit.
Given his track record I canât help finding myself wondering if this is agenda driven (i.e. thereâs something weâre not being told) or if this is just cock up.
If he didnât have a eugenics fanboy pulling his strings Iâd probably be less paranoid.
Matt Hancock seems to be confirming the Peston report here
Nothing mentioned about schools in this report. The reason for not implementing the old people quarantine yet - âwhen it comes it will be for a long timeâ. Is that a reason? The whole thing seems amateurish. Itâs not filling me with confidence. In fact, itâs beginning to make me nervous.
While youâre at it Hancock you useless cunt, can you tell us where the nurses are that will need to operate these machines you are now begging for? Twat.
I am getting increasingly annoyed at morons who keep posting, itâs only Flu.
It isnât. It is Interstitisl Pneumonia that is resistant to almost all antibiotics. We had a friend die of normal pneumonia it is horrific.
Covid 19 will causes unprecedented surge in high care pneumonia. It will overwhelm health services.
Anyone can now read statistical analysis of %ages of victims who need ventilators - Hancock is right panic buy. Order factories to make them.
65% of ICU beds & Ventilators are in use for NORMAL hospital cases. Car crash victims, Stroke/heart attack and yes even normal Flu victims.
This tips us back to the dark ages of medical care.
It is a problem for EVERY Western health system, not just an underfunded NHS.
Entire industries face months with zero income. People face months with zero income and not every Nation has a safety net or food banks.
And with have idealistic dreamers running so many countries right now.
In the long term? Boris is doomed. How ANY National Leadership can admit to a strategy that risks the lives of its Citizens let alone hundreds of thousands is simply astonishing.
The World has changed. Fuck knows what we will see on the other side
