:covid_19: đŸ˜· đŸ„ Corona Virus the thread for all your fears ❓

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All I know is the elderly and vulnerable need to be cared for, how is a different question and money shouldn’t come into it.
I am genuinely worried what will happen to the social fabric of our poorest and elderly, the mantra of take it on the chin is callous and cruel.
And when this hits poorer nations and shithouse regimes what then?

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Trump on Covid19. A oral history.

January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA
 Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”

February 25: “I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away
 They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”

February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”

February 26: “We’re going very substantially down, not up.”

February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

February 28: “We’re ordering a lot of supplies. We’re ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn’t be ordering unless it was something like this. But we’re ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”

March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don’t think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”

March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”

March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”

March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”

March 5: “The United States
 has, as of now, only 129 cases
 and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”

March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down
 a tremendous job at keeping it down.”

March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful
. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”

March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it
 Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”

March 6: “I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn’t our fault.”

March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”

March 9: “This blindsided the world.”

Friday March 13: “I don’t take responsibility at all” “

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People will die because of over stretched health resources 
 people will die because selfish cunts will happily not concern themselves about the old and the vulnerable
 maybe because of selfish ignorant fucks people will die because they can’t get nor normal medication


But again we now have 21 deaths since mid Feb. We may get to 21000 by June. But that will still dwarfed by the number that die of Cancer
 or chronic heart failure
 or the number in China that die each month of. OOPD due to pollution


The politicisation of this pandemic, is atrocious and despicable. As is the way the media is spreading panic and fear.

If only they made such a fucking fuss about the 7000 children under 5 who die each day through preventable disease or hunger


So for fucks sake can we please all grow a pair . Do our bit to prevent panic and spread of this nasty fucking virus which And act like fucking humans not Mail Reading cunts or sun reading fucktards

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Out of interest - we are where we are, no amount of hand wringing and recrimination will change anything. On that basis what would you do differently and why. Reasons to be backed up with science please.

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You can shove your please up your arse and then clean your hand afterwards for a start.

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8000 Private care beds spare for a start, I don’t need science just a bit of compassion and common sense.

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The tory fuckers made capital out of the World financial crisis of 2008 and have been living of it since, political gain through whatever means has always happened and when someone says they don’t want anyone to use it as political gain means they know they’re liable, the tories are liable.

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BBC is no fucking better
 ‘deaths double in 24 hours’. Perfect panic inducing headline forgetting that the number of cases is increasing exponentially as is typical at this stage and number of deaths is therefore sadly expected. Why no headline that states ‘death rate remains at approx 1% of those confirmed, but is potentially a lot lower as many infected will never be tested and recover ‘ ???

Not so juicy a headline is it
 does not create the nice political panic perfect for politicians to ‘step up to the mark’ or bankers to make a killing on short selling
 did anyone really expect the cunts in change who have shown their true colours these last couple of years not to make the most of this at our expense?

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Twats answer

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Good answer

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But the science helps

You were crapping on about it on another thread

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I don’t know anything about science but you don’t need to know if 8000 beds are spare you use them.

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Eventually the penny will drop. For the meantime there will be jokes about it, everybody in denial.Give it another week or two and people won’t be laughing. This virus is out there now, has been for weeks, our ‘‘strategy’ can be summed up as, let’s get as many people infected as possible, build up some kind of immunity, never mind that this is bollocks. Nobody knows if once people catch it they are then immune. They are making it up as they go along. Dominic Cummings and the self professed ’ wierdo’s and misfits’ in No 10 who are now setting the agenda and, to all intents and purposes, running the show must be furious that the various sporting bodies have given them the finger, now they have to scrabble and try to catch up with public opinion and pretend that banning large gatherings etc is what they wanted all along!Pathetic.

Let’s call a spade a spade here, ‘herd immunity’, which is our government’s strategy, pretty much alone in the civilized world, is just a polite way of saying the weak shall go to the wall. Population of the UK 68 million, ‘herd immunity’ needs 60% to be infected, You can do themaths on the back of a fag packet, 3% mortality rate, overwhelmingly old, already ill, ie expensive to the NHS, it really isn’t rocket science. Manna from heaven for the ‘wierdos and misfits’ with their ‘questionable’ views regarding eugenics etc. There is one main reason why the rest of the civilized world haven’t followed the UK, even though the science arguments may have tempted them,( even though they don’t stand up to any serious scrutiny, there is no evidence that after having the virus you have immunity, if the virus mutates any immunity will be irrelevant). For them it wasn’t a price worth paying, the interests of the privileged must sometimes come second to the interests of the weakest in society, which is pretty much what Italy’s leader said.
Our lot? Not a chance. These kind of sentiments are anathema to the self proclaimed ‘weirdos and misfits’ who are running the show. Cull the old and the weak, think of the money to be saved on pensions, social care, freeing up beds in the NHS. What’s not to like? disguising the fact that for the past ten years the NHS has been run into the ground, down to the bare bones. For at least seven years, every year, there have been dire warnings from NHS professionals warning that due to,the cuts and neglect of the NHS if there was any kind of medical emergency in this country they wouldn’t be able to cope. All ignored. Well here we are. Herd immunity is silly wishful thinking, pseudo science. Herd immunity means that 2% of the population will die, mostly elderly. A complete and utter failure of British governnment and the health system. Such a proposal would be considered outrageous and completely irresponsible in any civilized country. In this country it’s all about protecting the money of the wealthy.
Population 67 million x 60% = 40million infected. 3% death rate =2 million dead
 Great strategy

I recommend people read ’ Coronavirus why you must act now’ by Tomas Pueyo and then tell me why Cummings, Johnson and co should not be taken out and shot
 You won’t read a better scientifically researched report.

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Post of the year.
Ignore Boris just self isolate & stay safe everyone.
Time to hunker down for the long nap.

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So.
We have “plague”.
We have War in Syria.
We have Famine. Of panic buying & Bog Rolls.
Now we have Pestilence.
https://twitter.com/Unexplained/status/1238519529053065217?s=19

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You’re not wrong about eugenics Cummings and this

but this

Is also pseudo science.

The real revealing failure seems to be our lack of understanding of life, death and our own direct causes of this non event.

Unless something changes drastically, this amounts to no more than billions of people jumping at the sight of a spider. No wonder we’re fucked as a species, if something less deadly than a common cold can stimulate this amount of easily believed deception.
The failings of our health services should at no point be compared with this brief announce of an virus.

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You really believe that this virus is not as bad a common cold? Really? I wish i had your confidence. Fair play, i would love you to be proved right. I won’t be holding my breath though. We will find out one way or the other during the next two or three weeks. Personally i think that an awful lot of people are in for a shock, their everyday lifestyles changed for a long time. Especially in America, boy are they in for a shock. They are probably the least prepared nation on earth for this type of thing, no health care for the overwhelming majority, 35% of all workers have no form of sick pay, huge proportion of them morbidly obese and unfit, most of them armed to the teeth. Wait till they start dropping like flies and running out of bog paper and hand sannitizer, all hell will be let loose! Entertainment for the masses i suppose!

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Numbers don’t seem overly dissimilar, but there also seems to no reliability in the numbers we’re given(anyone with similar symptoms lumped in).

The fuss, in comparison to other events, doesn’t sit well and what powers will eugenics Cummings allow himself on the back of this non catastrophe?

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What shit is this?

Have you turned into David Koresh or some shite, I also wonder if this originated in Battersea or Virginia would you be so accepting?

No fuck that, you wouldn’t.

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Lets talk about numbers when this is finished.