And thanks to the cuts in legal aid, very few of them will have the means to contest it.
Go after the students. Theyâre skint and so obsessed with identity issues that theyâve spent their political power.
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Agree Pap
Very easy targets for the Police, acting on behalf of a Government, who couldnât manage a situation out of a brown paper bag, along with Universities scared to high heaven of finance being withdrawn if they donât tow the Tory line (the latter I have it on good authority are afraid of losing funding at the slightest excuse)
Get them to do a new Yellow Pages ad. That should pay for it.
Trouble is students are daft enough to throw a party in the worst Covid hit area in the country
Now they might have got away with it had they not pissed off the police by lying to them and the police then finding 30 people hiding in a supposedly empty house
There is also an element of pour encourager les autres
The youngest is a student in Cardiff and bought his 1st electo acoustic today before lockdown on Friday -
An Alvarez - got it now to give him a couple of weeks to get used to it and annoy the captive audience
Heâd been squirreling cash away for it for ages.
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Who was daft enough to make them all go back?
If higher education was just about higher education this wouldnât be an issue. Theyâre back because both the government and the universities are too used to the wedge.
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I agree re the unis wanting the cash - they have mortgaged themselves to the eyeballs with new buildings secured by future fees
I am pretty sure the unis didnât tell the students to throw parties of up to 100 people and lie to the police - as much as people hate the govt, people have to take responsibility for their own actions
There seems to be a trend of abdicating personal responsibility these days - itâs always somebody elseâs fault
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I trust youâre saying that in a scouse accent. 
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A trend which our Government has fully embraced.
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That sort of underlines my point
âYeah, but the govtâ
âyeah, but someone elseâ
âYeah, but anyone but meâ
Itâs not about blame. Itâs about responsibility. When one of my staff fucks up, itâs my responsibility. I either didnât brief them or didnât train them or didnât monitor them enough.
Last time I checked, youngsters newly ejected from ma and paâs for the first time are not collectively big on responsibility.
Like the 10pm curfew on bars, it simply illustrates how distant the government is from the people theyâre supposed to govern.
Unless you want to get into the practice of condemning teenagers for being teenagers, the only conclusion is that the government was responsible for saying they could all go back to University. The government is responsible for the outbreaks there.
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But this incident was a party of 30 odd in a house, in one of the highest infection areas, and they tried to deceive the police when they were rumbled. The organisers were 3rd year students so while still young of course, they were not newly wet behind the ears.
No indoor household mixing is not that tough to understand
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Neither is a bunch of young people cooped up for months wanting to enjoy themselves.
In pretty much every area of law, someoneâs age is taken into account when sentencing, usually, the younger the person the lighter the sentence.
Theyâve just had the book thrown at them while Cummings has the entire government covering his lies.
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2 wrongs donât make a right. And, yes, I agree with you, and I have said it before, that the actions of a few have undermined the message and the seriousness of the situation.
Saying that what the students did is in no way correct or defensible, as @CB-Saint says people need to start taking responsibility for their own actions.
Maybe the fines are harsh but if theyâd not lied and everyone had gone home instead of hiding nothing more would have been saidâŚ
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I donât think anyoneâs saying they do.
The punishment should fit the crime, though. And no one should be above the law.
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Not so sure where those figure come from, hasnât Newcastle university had nearly 2,000 case this month alone?