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Jeez - It must be hard constantly insisting your version of the world and current events is the only correct one.

Don’t have a duck pond or a village green, can’t stand cricket and the local pub is still closed because of Covid-19, but don’t let that stop you making up shite :roll_eyes::joy:

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Its called a poor pisstake, your pub must take the piss as well still closed, must all of fucked off during furlough and got another job.

£2.5k a month is just grand unless your outgoings are £4K

And down the other end - just how many people can afford a twenty percent pay cut on low wages

They might be sat on their arse at home but that is more time to look at your ever increasing overdraft

The only winners here are the middle income commuters

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That is those who didn’t get furloughed

The point is that people on furlough shouldn’t be made to feel grateful about their handouts when billions are spent lining the pockets of useless business people who are lucky enough to be well connected. Its criminal corruption.
Todays latest from the ā€œworld beatingā€ track and trace system? People in Twickenham have been told off in the HOC by Hancock for ā€˜gaming the system’, after somebody discovered that they can get a test in their local area despite being told there are none available, by pretending their postcode is in Aberdeen. A number of them, after getting knocked back were advised that if they put an Aberdeen postcode into the system, they can get a test in Twickenham, and many have succeeded. WTF is going on? It’s like a Monty Python sketch, except that it’s no longer funny. Hancock says there are,ā€œoperational challengesā€ in the testing system which he assures us will be resolved, but it will take weeks. Weeks? What a fucking shit show, the laughing stock of the world.

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Not arguing that but loads still took it, commuters are on all sorts of pay, many on minimum wage that’ll be close to that 20% with money spent coffees and food etc etc, they lapped it up and I don’t necessarily blame them but it was short sighted.
As always the poorest will suffer the most.

Hang on, it wasn’t a choice that people could make. It was you are on furlough or you are redundant right now

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I’m not saying they should be grateful at all, just a high percentage of who volunteered to go down the road for 3 months will be there an awful lot more, an example is my mate works for a cash distribution and collection company, they asked for volunteers and got too many, after sorting out who went on furlough they went about their business of cost cutting and readiness for when furlough ended, you can guess who they were cost cutting.

No it wasn’t some offices asked who wanted to be furloughed, it wasn’t everyone, you as a business applied to do it and gave the numbers of many you wanted to furlough.

Except many didn’t have a choice.

How did you think this scheme worked? In most places. it was employers identifying those furloughed, with redundancy being the only other choice if they could not work from home.

As a matter of interest, what were your working conditions during lockdown?

Normal as fuck. Many didn’t but I not arguing that am I, I’m saying the noble volunteers in March who put their hands up.
Not the ones who wanted to work, thats a different argument and one of huge pity I have.

I’ll let you into a little secret. Many many people who were on furlough, and those who got the self employed grants carried on working in one way or another. That is the real world. It was seen as ā€˜free money’, whether by the likes of Serco, G4S, various mates of Gove and Cummings and the like(except they got a much larger whack), down to builders, plasterers, brickies etc(except they got a much smaller one). That is the state of the nation, created and led by the example and philosophy of our government… A nation on the fiddle, that’s us! Meanwhile each day brings a new ā€˜challenge’, and the country descends a bit further down the gurgler.
It’s going to be a long winter!

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I can’t disagree with any of that.

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They were fully entitled to. All they had to confirm was that their business had been affected by it, there was no restriction on the self employed continuing to work while in receipt of the grant. I carried on working, albeit at a rate of probably 5 - 10% of my normal load, (at least 80% of my work is for theatres, concerts and cruise ships. So that’s all stopped, and remains so.)

I think he meant if you were furloughed and you worked not some ducking and diving way of circumventing a rule, which the British of all classes are also brilliant at.

I was lucky as I had an empty house to finish so got a bit done until the materials ran out.
Amazingly, people didn’t want a stranger coming round their house to spread their germs. Changing Daisy’s room from pink to purple wasn’t seen as that important so I had a few weeks off.
Business is pretty good now as holiday money is being spent on home improvements so private work has picked up. Also done a fair few bedroom to office conversions recently for people working from home.
As for the Government grant money. I’ll take every penny I can from them cunts. No sick pay. No holiday pay. No job security. So fuck em.

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Yes, I’ve had a bit of a surge in private work, more than I’d normally do. And it’s about fucking time the self employed got something back out of the taxman.

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On furlough
Those people furloughed were entitled to get another job whilst on furlough

We had a couple of enterprising lads who drove Asda vans for four months - fair play to them

There are however a number of companies who made staff work whilst collecting furlough, however this is more your SME businesses. The Sercos of the world wouldn’t do it as the rewards of bilking the furlough system are far outweighed by the risks of being caught

They have far more effective ways of screwing the system that are perfectly legal

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Well. This is depressing.
OK so it is US Centric but clearly the ā€œwargamesā€ lessons were learnt by some.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02277-6?fbclid=IwAR39EsbvZLIFlkVBHbFto8yb3lnaq0xG2Ntylm3YCuK230ixzLYouaeTmpA