:covid_19: đŸ˜· đŸ„ Corona Virus the thread for all your fears ❓

And yet, and YET
 Gove would make a better PM than Boris.

Well only on the sense that a tub of fucking lard would


Does that mean I could be PM?

I’m trying to eat here. :nauseated_face:

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Roy Hattersley anyone?

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I doubt it. He’d be just as incompetent, and this would be shown up just as brutally in the current circumstances. One thing that Johnson and Gove have in common (well, one particular thing among many others) is that they’re both journalist politicians. Their earlier careers were spent creating and presenting their earth-shattering ideas to those that read their witterings in whatever papers they wrote in.

And it’s very easy to persuade yourself, and indeed a lot of your readership, that doing something totally stupid is actually a very good idea. And when you’re just writing this bollocks in a column in the Times, the Telegraph, the Mail, the Spectator or wherever, none of this does any real harm. It’s when the cunts move beyond that, get into actual politics, and put their deranged ideas into practice, that it all goes horribly wrong.

Gove’s time as education secretary is a classic case in point. A triumph of witless opinion over any kind of practical knowledge and experience. He’s probably proud of it even now.

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Don’t know if this stat is accurate, but it should be more widely publicised if true.

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My gut feeling. Nobody in any Nation outside maybe NZ, Aus come out of the past months perfectly

We face a threat with little data, and ever changing/learning situations.
But it just seems from outside people who have made Churchillian Speechez and set Targets &taken positions have found those changing.
Great examples were testing numbers.the 1st antibody test, the App, Hydrochloroquuinine.
All statements of fact that were subject to a lot of unknowns. Making them into rocks for their own backs in many ways.
Maybe they wandered to the inept questions asked, maybe they are incapable of explaining aspirations instead of dogma?
Last night (I hate myself for this), Trump was interviewed on The Golf Channel. Of course I the 10 minutes he talked he slipped in political shit BUT when asked about Sport Resuming it was We are speaking to good people. We are working towards solutions. So different from bland Football will be back on xbox date for example.
He explained why there were no targets but all of Sport Medics and Government were working together.
He still fvcked it up by blaming China etc.
Maybe UK needs people to make statements that are messed up"Made impossible by changing facts.
I just feel they hot the Tone wrong.

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I think its simpler than that
 Governments that have little clue (because of lack of leadership qualities), or who are struggling with popularity and sensitive to voter expectations have focused on fictionalising their ‘control’ - and then blaming the fact that our EVOLVING scientific and clinical understanding of the epidemiology has caused this ‘dynamic policy’ shift (in effect desperate to shift blame away from their incompetence or potentially more sinister policies)

The governments that have done better fall into two categories, those who have been very draconian and those who demonstrated effective leadership by being more honest about the evolving situation
 eg ‘we dont know what is the best thing to do yet, Therefore safest and wisest move is to close borders and lockdown immediately’’

UK and US, fall into the worst combination: Potential more sinister policy, incompetence, and not really giving any fucks about people when it comes to $ÂŁ$ÂŁ$ÂŁ$

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There’s also an element of having to convey the sense that the government is in control of the situation, even if they don’t have any more of a clue than any other government. It isn’t something they’re used to dealing with. However, they also need to avoid public panic, the loss of public order could be potentially more damaging than the virus.

You’re dead right about them setting themselves up for the inevitable fall by proposing arbitrary targets, which they must surely realise are speculative and dependent on myriad factors beyond their control? :thinking: Why couldn’t they just say they’re working to provide as many as they can as soon as it’s practical, and maybe add an aspirational figure if they really felt they had to? News organisations were always going to quote the “promises” made, and claim failure if they weren’t achieved.

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Very true, but the most successful are those that are most honest
 You can still avoid panic by being truthful about what you know as fact versus what is not yet known, and build a policy that safeguards against the unknowns
 not waiting for confirmation but acting immediately and providing a clear rationale for why these are the most effective measures
 we differed by putting economy ahead of safety using the ambiguity that remained as a reason
 which has killed more people as a result
 yet we are not holding the Government to account


I may be alone in this but I can honestly say I cannot think of any of our politicians that I would trust to lead me out of a burning building never mind a worldwide pandemic. It would be nice however if they treated us like adults and not silly little children, I have never responded well to condescension

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It would seem you are not alone.

If things get any worse in that London, rich Londoners may have to tidy up after themselves.

Shudder, etc.

Everything will be fine, the nice men will deal with all those naughty bugs. Don’t worry your pretty little head about it.

Please sir, does that mean I don’t have to wear my latex gloves anymore when I venture out?

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I’ve a feeling you’re about to get bounced, mate.

And not in that nice way. More like in that doorman way.

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I hope you’re not suggesting an edit? :thinking: :smile:

What are we all doing 6:30pm tomorrow night?

I always assumed they were a fashion accessory. :thinking:

Consider yourself slapped

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