āPeople will be looking at our successā. Did Johnson really say that? FFS. Upwards of 40,000 dead a success! Deranged.
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I also liked his analogy of corona virus as a mugger who we have tackled and are wrestling with. How many muggers give you two months notice?
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New ONS stats due tomorrow morning I think.
9:30am.
Here the FT are looking at excess deaths related to Coronavirus using methodology similar to that suggested by @Map-Of-Tasmaniaā¦
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A Panorama special in 10 minutes at 7-30 on shortages in the NHS will be damning if the trailerās anything to go by.
I do suspect (and this an opinion being voiced by a number of epidemiologists i have spoken with via work) that when this is āall overā mOst countries will see similar pictures with the variation based on genotypic variations, generally health of those over 65, and quality of healthcare system care. The other difference is that some countries will have flattened the curve much better, but all this does is spread the deaths over more monthsā¦ Going to be a new ānormā going forward until we hopefully get a decent vaccine.
Funny how Hancockās Ā£60k was announced just before this BBC Panorama.
What fucking cunts we have running this shit show.
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Watching this now. Iām not shocked.
Paper wipes included in the PPE stats.
Speaking of which, the pre-doctored ONS stats will also be out this morning.
Iāve just watched it. What can you say, they downgraded the supposed potency of the virus to fit the quality of PPE available. Lives needlessly lost and will be lost because of the governmentās ineptitudeā¦culpable homicide.
ONS figures out.
Worse than FT Economics Editor Chris Gilesā projections.
Of noteā¦
Care home deaths for one week ending 17th April for England and Wales were 7,316, compared to a 5 year average of 2,400. Or, nearly 5,000 people died in care homes in one week likely due to COVID-19.
5,000 people. In one week.
None of which would have been able to be admitted to hospital due to NICE COVID-19 guidelines.
It looks like āour successā as Boris puts it, and the NHSās ability to cope has been built on the dead bodies of those care home residents that were first kept out of hospital and then kept out of the statistics.
We should applaud them, and then, when the time is right, hold those responsible to account.
And BTW, that might mean saying they did the right thing by ensuring people werenāt given the chance of resuscitation in hospital.
But letās ensure everybody knows what underpins āour successā.
The (short) thread can be read here - with more analysis to follow.
Letās hope someone asks questions of this in todayās briefing - they MUST be held accountable for this.
Agreedā¦ but there is a scientific ābutāā¦ as opposed to a moral or humanistic one, before I get pelters.
It is highly likely that the majority of those in care homes who have died at the care home, would have died in hospital, given the risk profile. So the question in how many of these would really have stood a chance of recovery if we are seeking a āfigureā on the number unnecessary deaths.
Of course we should never be in a situation where anyone dies because of a lack of care - and certainly we should not have a policy of euthanasia which in effect is what the Government has implemented by not giving those in care homes access to hospital care.
So the questions to Government should be:
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Why were those in care homes who had contracted COVID-19 and were obviously in high risk groups not given access to hospitals?
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Who was responsible for this policy (we know this is not a medical policy, even if risk levels and potential for recovery is considered from a clinical perspective, it is never used in determining access to care)
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It is clear this is a miscalculation by the Government that has resulted in unnecessary deathsā¦ who is accountable for this? (Cummings is seen smirking as he is only an āadvisorā not policy makerā¦) and therefore, who is going to prison?
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OK, I understand itās an issue but is this really necessary :-
Deaf campaigners have started legal proceedings against the UK government over the lack of sign language interpreters at its daily coronavirus briefings.
British Sign Language (BSL) users say they have been discriminated against because critical information is not being conveyed to them.
Beth Rose, from BBC Ouch, has written about how a twitter campaign, using the hashtag #WhereIsTheInterpreter, morphed into the class action legal case.
Carswell agrees that failing the NHS is genuinely awfulā¦hold onā¦no, his comment is aimed at the apparent editorial bias of the programme.
https://twitter.com/DouglasCarswell/status/1255148499307425793?s=20
All of the daily briefings Iāve seen on the BBC have someone signing.
Not sure about the accuracy of this, but I would like to see the official chart that shows the comparison of all deaths (in excess of the average) for all countries.
IF our non-care home figure has been compared to all-death figures from the rest of the world, then the ārealā graph would look something like thisā¦
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Thatās the Euromomo source used 
There are some serious questions this raisesā¦ not least about the delays (FFS Cheltenham, and the 15000 people who arrive via heathrow everydayā¦ and are dispersed) but also about the way our social care systems are really not fit for purpose, the general healthcare funding which impacts on the general health of the population etcā¦ I suspect we have a higher percentage of folks in high risk groups than many in Europe who spend much more on health care.
Itās Time, IMHO that the health and social care budget is depoliticised so we have a ring fenced budgetā¦ and for this we need to revise the national insurance scheme that goes straight to these services.
Personally, I find the German system is pretty goodā¦ but they are prepared to pay for it. In simple terms itās linked to income. So low income and OAPs pay a tiny fraction of a full contribution. Full contribution is 7.5% of gross earnings with employer contribution adding another 7%. That is just for healthcare.
Itās about 2x what we typically pay in
It works because there are upto 100 insurers who the get money allocated for each patient that have on their booksā¦ and they get more money for folks with chronic conditions. By law they have to accept everyone who wants to be covered by them and the standard of. Are is the same for all.
Hospitals and infrastructure are centrally funded, but the running costs and salaries of staff are funded by the claims made against insurer ā¦ so all treatment is Free at point of care as hereā¦ difference is itās also much more focused on preventionā¦ everyone has Medicals most years and also all tests are carried out in one go, not sequentially meaning you donāt wait 6months for a CT scan because of costā¦
The companies who run the insurance are NON-PROFIT but they can make a surplus as this is ploughed back in to offer addition value added services to try and attract more patients.
For a tax paying pensioner it works about Ā£5 a month contributionā¦ I am sure we would have folks up in arms at though thought of anyone paying for healthcareā¦ but itās really just ring fenced taxā¦
Question is - how much are we willing to pay for a decent service?
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Panorama only has itself to blame, and itās a fucking shame if theyāve gone and done it again.
It skated on thin ice when it was doing the Labour anti-semitism expose. That ice cracked from underneath it when the Labour leaks surfaced, revealing that half the people theyād interviewed were the same people obstructing the processes theyād complained about.
The issue is real. The programme moved me. However, if the gravity of these issues gets turned into a bitch fight over activists then it will have done the nation no good.
Mud sticks. Itās demonstrably tainted. How the fuck did it not manage to consider an alternative line on the Labour AS thing in a wider media world with so many competing voices and accounts?
Pretty much all of which were more credible than āthe Labour Party is full of selectively racist cuntsā one they went on to imply.
Actually, Iām watching one now for the first time in a while and thereās no signer. Itās bloody disgusting! Iāve got the telly on mute because Handcock pisses me off. How an I meant to know what heās saying? I demand some compo.