:covid_19: 😷 šŸ„ Corona Virus the thread for all your fears ā“

Imagine if the SNP had got their way and were independent with an economy propped up by the price of oil.

In their defence, they are capable of getting PPE delivered so would probably be fine

Fuck off, you sound like my ex-wife :rage: :rage:

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If I was cynical that would be my conclusion too.

If you think about Corona as being THE defining news story of the epoch then being on the critical side of the government’s (Trump’s) handling of it could define careers for decades.

If I was cycnical, I would also point out that if Piers goes quiet on these issues at some point, it might mean he could have been offered something better than a career defined for decades.

Good job I’m not cynical.

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Can we just debate the points - perhaps on another thread?

Or just ignore them?

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I did ask that he gave it a rest.

If he does that, there is no need for anyone to challenge this bollocks. Fuck knows why he keeps bringing it up here.

There are, as you say, other threads that discuss this very matter.

haha… so predicable… you once gain make stuff up… like a poor man’s Cummings, you are smart enough to twist my comment to make it about ā€˜me; and my so-called-feeling of superiority’… which is frankly ignorant. The two are NOT the same thing. In your world, everyone is smart yeah? everyone who votes is so clever they can easily distinguish between truth and bullshit, yeah? No one believes political lies or spin?

You are a little obsessed with trying to play a moral superiority card, avoiding the more difficult and uncomfortable truth… go watch those videos at Trump rallies, if you want any ā€˜evidence’.

Do you really still believe there are no folks ever expected 338m for the NHS? (and please don’t suggest this is now mute (covid etc/economic down turn its not the point)

Pap’s argumentations 101:

  1. No one who votes is stupid
  2. No one who votes is ever impacted on by propaganda
  3. If someone has a two sheds (I have only one, but I do have a cellar) their POV is void
  4. If someone ever had a holiday in France or Italy, they must be middle-class and have no idea about ā€˜real people’
  5. If someone makes a personal decision to send their kids to a specific school, they are middle-class scum and no right to hold and left of centre political views
  6. Unless you are as political ā€˜virtuous’ and ā€˜traditional in principles’ the you have no right in expressing a political view

If anyone is embarrassing themselves Pap, its you and fucking BIG chips you have on both shoulders multiplied by your lack of self -awareness…

Look like this may have been false

From the beeb

Twitter says it does not currently see evidence that the UK government has tried to manipulate coronavirus conversations using fake accounts.

It comes after claims began circulating on social media implying the Department of Health and Social Care was behind a network of Twitter accounts pretending to be NHS staff.

These accounts, which were allegedly posting in support of the government, appear to have been deleted.

The Department of Health tweeted that the claims were ā€œcategorically falseā€.

Twitter adds that it ā€œwill remove any pockets of smaller coordinated attempts to distort or inorganically influence the conversationā€.

I don’t think you can draw that conclusion.

Wait until the evidence is published.

What we appear to know is that 100+ accounts - ostensibly nurses and NHS staff posted is support of the government.

The guy on Twitter flagged this as dodgy.

As you say, the DHSC posted a categorical denial - using language that would allow for other people to have done this.

Then all accounts that were under scrutiny were then deleted.

Twitter now says that it does not currently see evidence…perhaps because it’s been deleted.

I’ve followed the guy who flagged this for some time and he’s not a crackpot.

If he thinks something smells and the events that he’s described actually happened, then something very smelly has gone on.

As I say, I’d wait until drawing the conclusion that it may have been false.

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Can we draw a line under this now please - or take it to another thread?

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Flu does kill a lot of people, somewhere between 350k-600k globally each year (depending on which study you read). The scary thing is we have herd immunity and a flu vaccine for influenza and it still kills hundreds of thousands of people, we don’t for covid-19 and it is more aggressive and more contagious.

Outside? :boxing_glove:

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Yep, I suspect that our future will includes cyclical periods of lock downs especially as there is no guarantee of an effective vaccine… In future though, it might be that during ā€˜high risk’ periods teh old and vulnerable are protected by lockdown and semi-isolation, with the rest accepting they will get a mild dose at some point but ensuring things continue… key to that is good testing and self isolation discipline when we have a midl case, and a good infrastructure and support system for the isolating and those in protective lockdown… but this doe shave civil liberties implications as well… new reality could be quite different.

You should email that to trump.

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Not sure he can read… mind you he would not notice my typos

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US up to 800k cases :flushed:

Looking at China’s cases per million - it is down there with all the third world countries who can’t test properly which makes me suspect they are bollocks

You’re right in that you can’t draw the conclusion that it’s all bullshit. I’m pretty sure there’s something in it but this fella has shot himself in the foot. If his argument is that you can’t judge it until he’s collated all the evidence and done the research etc, then why did he release the information? It’s making him look a bit daft and has undermined the work. Why didn’t he just wait until he had a watertight case? Unless I’m missing something.

The article in the guardian doesn’t seem to lend too much credence to this blokes story. It should be a big story near the top of the page but yes fucked it up by shooting too early

No evidence of bots impersonating NHS over coronavirus, says Twitter

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Apart from @nhs_susan’s name tag saying ā€œMehaā€.