:Ru: Care to comment on Russian aggression?

They didn’t attack the nazis but signed a pact with them.
Cunts.
Fact.

They won the war in every sense,including killing 90% of all Nazi fighters killed(without ever attacking?).
Admit it to yourself, thank them and move on with your life. Your obsession isn’t good for your health.
If you must worry about something, worry about Assange and the freedoms that are being striped away in this country(and other non democracies) not some imaginary bogeyman. This is real and been in the planning for a long time. How have you not noticed.
http://www.duncancampbell.org/content/planned-espionage-act-would-jail-whistleblowers-spies

Admit it they signed a pact with the nazis, consigned Poland to rubble and left Europe to burn.
Stalin was a cunt, more died from starvation, bad tactics, poor treatment and equipment, the gulags and disease than on the battle field.
Fact.
I’ll still pay for the ticket (cash) to Moscow.
Fact.

I can do this all day son without the need to get a quote. If you know you know. Read some books.

As a side note, how many Jews died fighting for the Soviet Union? How many went to the gulags as well as undesirables?
Look that up son.

Good idea…

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They won the war and weren’t the ones funding the Nazis?
But who could fail to admit that.
If you believe you can give everyone a history lesson, tell us all about Operation Bagration, the numbers involved and it’s significance (read some books if you can’t :wink:).

Pact with nazis.
Crushed Poland.
Killed millions of their own.

You side with a broken ideology, you lost Philby.

If calling me Kim helps you accept the truth that Russia won the war, that’s fine.
I am a bit disappointed that our very own self styled military historian doesn’t appear to understand the significance of Operation Bagration. Maybe you need to read some books.

The Soviet Union/Russia are so wrapped up in their sole victory they don’t see any others, this is due to their political system, you need a history lesson, to say they won the World War is not only wrong its deeply offensive, what were the allies doing when the Soviets were aligned to the nazis?
To say the Soviets lost more and therefore have more claim is totally disingenuous as the reasons are many for that, unprepared, poorly armed, poor tactics etc etc.
The Soviets should acknowledge their 2 year pact with the nazis.

Books, historians don’t doubt the Soviet influence on the war but to say they solely won it is ignorant and wrong.

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They played by far the greater part. Could have won it alone and the reason they lost so many more is easily explained with facts like 228-11.
You’re earlier claims of us or the USoWH is beyond ridiculous.

I suggest you stop making yourself look foolish, the Soviets claim of they solely won the war comes from their inferiority complex and competition with the west then and now, what did they do to Poland after they crushed it? Did they return nations to their original state? No they enslaved them for years.
These are facts SOS.
How many did Stalin kill before the war in his purges?
A blood sacrifice doesn’t give more licence to a victory.
You think like a Soviet you really do.

We can honestly discuss all the facts laid bare if you wish but you have to acknowledge Stalin sided with the nazis, massacred Jews and crushed Poland and staved Soviet Ukraine to death.
These are facts.
You’re not even on the right side of history, you’re factually wrong as well.
Again raise any point you want and I’ll try to engage with you but I think I may be pissing in the wind as quite frankly you’re passed the point of help.

I’m not the one tying themselves in knots trying to deny the truth. That’s you. 228-11 and over 90%. The numbers don’t lie, it’s just you that does.

Evidence that they claim to have solely won, or admit your a liar.

You’re usual technique, change the subject when you know your wrong. None of that has any relevance to the point being discussed and just makes you look foolish.

Again more lies. As stated, the numbers don’t lie, you do.

Again, you liar. How many times have i previously asked you to explain the relevance and numbers of Operation Bagration and who funded the Nazis throughout.

And you finish with your usual, when you can’t face the FACT that you’re wrong, personal abuse. So i’ll refer back to my last post concerning the drivel you write.
Beyond ridiculous.
Oh and here’s a video you could do with watching Rachel(much more fitting than your lame attempt) Gabor refers to you in both your guises.

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We had deals with the Nazis. What do you think the Munich agreement was?

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A betrayal of the British people and its Empire and Europe also. Chamberlains gamble to retain and control the Conservative party, why ask that question?

SOS

I don’t know where to begin with this, you’ve stated they solely won the war now you don’t?
The Soviets view they paid the price the most and should be given more credit for the War (maybe they should but we’re not questioning that here I’m questioning your knowledge of it)

The question you should be asking is would the Soivet Union have won the war without the other allies?
Soviet Ukrainian starvation.
Pact with the nazis.
Didn’t enter the war until invaded.
Crushed Poland.

No they’re historical facts SOS, you’re incorrect.

And you compare the Munich Agreement to Soviet one with the nazis? As hollow as the Munich agreement was (Chamberlain didn’t think so) and horrific for the Czechs (Sudetenland at first) many in the UK thought it was a betrayal but many also saw the horrors of the 1st war, you can not compare, one was a naive selfish peace deal, the other was a move to crush a nation (Poland) to act as a buffer to polar ideologies whilst they pursued a reign of terror.

Ask others on here what they think? They won’t comment as its me, which is classy but their prerogative.

In what way?

Chiefly,it was a betrayal of Czecjpslovakia, after it was decided by Britain and Germany that the Sudetenland would be ceded to the Reich.

Hitler would have invaded otherwise and was disappointed when Munich robbed him of this opportunity.

I’d argue that the guarantee to protect Poland was a far more calamitous pact.

I’d check that if I were you.

Correct, but he stoked up tension to invade, similar to the Russian invasion of Crimea in fact.

You do know about the attempt at a tri peace pact with the French and Soviets? Meanwhile the Soviets were negotiating with the nazis? And in turn creating World War 2, it could have been averted.

That pact was always getting made. There was nothing that the Soviets could get from a deal with France or Britain that would have interested them.