Ask the Poles that, or the other nations they subsumed after the war. How did it turn out for them? Subjugated as before, they weren’t free.
It’s a simple fact Barry. Russia won WWII. Now give thanks.
It’s also a fact that the cia were set up by Nazis.
Did you enjoy the article?
How did Russia win when it was the Soviet Union for a start, what about their war atrocities? Non aggression pact? I don’t need to read your shite as its that, now go and back it up with genuine sourced stuff and I’ll accept it.
You can’t prove or make that assertion as it fucking stupid to do without knowledge, show me the facts the Soviet Union won World War II?
The FACT the US treated nazis as assets shouldn’t surprise you, does it? Come on, please.
We can dissect what you’ve said here and I’ll be fair, we can start from any period of the War and discuss your view on this.
Churchill for all his ills was absolutely 100% correct on his analysis of the Soviets.
Go read Barry. It’s widely available. Look at the numbers. They reveal the reality, like it or not.
You make me laugh, you really do, show me the books where it says the Soviets won World War II.
Don’t bother contributing with your crap until then.
It’s quite amazing you didn’t know. That article must of been painful.
Don’t tell me, or anyone what and when to contribute. Your getting very like your Nazi friends. Ignore me if you don’t like what i post. You can spend the time celebrating the murder of children in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Palestine or Venezuela(to name a few), or wrap yourself in an msm cocoon that will shield you from the horrors we export, although you appear to have spent your whole life doing that.
Your ignorance in World War II is apparent, I have asked you to back those ridiculous claims up and you can’t, where are these books I can read as I’ve never heard of them nor read them.
I’d love to, help me.
Your last paragraph is desperate even for you, it’s beneath you that.
Stop!
Just post the books or accredited historical links showing the Soviet Union won World War II.
You’re showing yourself up lad.
Stay ignorant then. Try percentage of population. Percentage of enemy forces and that kind of thing. It’ll do you good to do your own homework(clue in the article and it’s big enough for you to see it).
Have fun and don’t be too disappointed
Gents,
Think of the WWII as a races to capitals
Berlin to Warsaw Germans won.
Berlin to Brussels Germans Won.
Berlin to Hague Germans won.
Berlin to Paris Germans won.
Berlin to Moscow Russians never lost.
Berlin to London British never lost.
London to Paris Yanks (French let in first ) won.
London / Moscow to Warsaw Russians won.
London / Moscow to Brussels British / Yanks won.
London / Moscow to Hague British / Yanks won.
London / Moscow to Berlin Russians won.
London to Monte Carlo Paddy Hopkirk won.
One for the youngsters.
What is this shit?
The Soviets lost millions for a whole raft of reasons, tactics, food, munitions, ordnance, geography and morale.
Give me these books that give the Soviets as sole victors of the war due to their losses (I think you’re implying this).
Before you comment again on this, quote these books.
It was the race to Berlin, Berlin was so so important, the Soviets got there first and it changed the face of Europe for years, they strangled and enforced their doctrine (bar possibly Yugoslavia) on other nations and its peoples.
Do you think Nazi Germany would have been defeated without Russia Bazza?
Thats a different scenario, under what circumstances?
I’m trying to establish how you see Russias role in the nazis defeat. I don’t think they are solely responsible for the victory but I do think they were pivotal.
Eg. How many divisions were defeated by the Russians? How many by other allies?
I see their role of a second front as important to the point it sped the war up by years ie the failure to secure their objective and the counter offensive by the Soviets, this massively helped the allies on the Atlantic front.
The numbers killed were massively high due to many reasons again, the war was attritional, bitter and both side committed the most heinous of war crimes.
You’re falling for the Soviet game of numbers lost which makes them more important and valuable, they lost millions due to Stalin murdering many of his best commanders in the great purge.
Geography this time saved the Soviets.
The British warned Stalin about invasion but he didn’t trust us, because he was a prick really.
Once the US joined the war the war was won, Britain would have resisted but would have bled a slow death due to Atlantic blockades, the Soviets and Germany would have carved up Europe and it’ll look a lot different to today.
Lets not forget Stalin was a tyrant and absolute bastard to his people.
He enslaved his parts of Europe and held them back years.
And numbers of divisions defeated? I made no mention of the numbers of Soviets lost.
I can provide them do you need to know? Rhetorical?
What is the purpose of the question, you can’t say that sacrifice by numbers gives you the divine right to say you’ve solely won the war, thats fucking inbred.