Originally posted by @Fatso
Iâm not what your point of view is as you still havenât really explained it. Youâve shown a video that someone else has made without really saying anything about the content of that video. Youâve said that youâre cynical, but I donât know what youâre cynical about. So far, all I know is that you think this refugee movement is some sort of Trojan horse plot, that other Middle a Eastern countries arenât taking refugees and that Syrians should stay and fight (your video clip shows a destroyed Syrian cityâŚare you really saying they should stay there and fight?)
Do you deny there are Syrian refugees moving in their millions? If you accept that they exist, do you think we should accept them? If not, why not?
I accept that there are âsomeâ Syrian refugees, but the majority arenât, and why do I have to justify whether I think we should accept them or not?..we keep being told there is âno moneyâ âcut backsâ âausterityââŚwhereâs the money going to come from to pay for all of these people?.
When we elected to join the common market in the 70's, this isn't what we signed up for....we've been shafted by the politicians (all parties) to accept something that the majority of British people don't want.....that's my view.
Ok, thanks for explaining your point of view. I think weâre done here.
wow gr8 news sounds like fatso + jet sounds have solved the refugee crisis!
Originally posted by @jet-sounds
Very nice pap, but youâre an intelligent fellow, and you know in reality that lifeâs not like that, nor will it ever be.
Have you actually tried it? The whole point is that itâs a decision YOU make. It doesnât require anyone else to subscribe to it. Itâs a personal choice.
So yep, life is very much like that for me, and if I didnât run around as a frightened kid when we were getting bombed in the 1980s, Iâm not going to be scared now.
Originally posted by @jet-sounds
When we elected to join the common market in the 70âs, this isnât what we signed up forâŚweâve been shafted by the politicians (all parties) to accept something that the majority of British people donât wantâŚthatâs my view.
Iâve got sympathy with that view, but in the case of internal EU migration, Iâve never blamed the people that move here for a better life. I do take issue with the politicians that have allowed this situation to develop to the extent that it has. That, for me, is where you apply the pressure.
The Schengen zone has definitely been a factor in refugees getting to these shores, but not the reason that they had to leave their homes in the first place. We have had a huge role in creating that. and the British public, yourself included, needs to understand that refugees are a consequence of most, if not all wars.
Iâve seen shit on Facebook today speaking about there not being any British refugees in WW2, that weâre somehow better because of that. Itâs bollocks of course. What else are evacuees apart from junior refugees? We sent 14K of them overseas for safe keeping, and the rest of the world took them in. Now itâs our turn, and we bear a lot of responsibility for their plight in the first place, we donât want to know.
Sadly social media has become a hotbed of stupidity, spin and racism.
Itâs like the crappest gossip pub in the world, on a larger scale.
New tales of imaginary Tesco branches refusing to serve soldiers are being written every day and distributed by the simple and the dangerous.
The rewriting of WWII history doesnât surprise me, it would just be nice if people read these things twice to check for facts before liking or passing on.
How much of this could have been avoided, I wonder?
Good guys and bad guys, eh?
Russia proposed more than three years ago that Syriaâs president, Bashar al-Assad, could step down as part of a peace deal, according to a senior negotiator involved in back-channel discussions at the time.
Former Finnish president and Nobel peace prize laureate Martti Ahtisaari said western powers failed to seize on the proposal. Since it was made, in 2012, tens of thousands of people have been killed and millions uprooted, causing the worldâs gravest refugee crisis since the second world war.
All my back channel discussions with Mrs G come to nothing too.
US President Barack Obama said all European states should accept their âfair shareâ of asylum seekers, after talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
Go on then Barack - how many are you taking, considering the crisis has been caused in part by your shit foreign policy
Originally posted by @pap
How much of this could have been avoided, I wonder?
Good guys and bad guys, eh?
Russia proposed more than three years ago that Syriaâs president, Bashar al-Assad, could step down as part of a peace deal, according to a senior negotiator involved in back-channel discussions at the time.
Former Finnish president and Nobel peace prize laureate Martti Ahtisaari said western powers failed to seize on the proposal. Since it was made, in 2012, tens of thousands of people have been killed and millions uprooted, causing the worldâs gravest refugee crisis since the second world war.
But the single point of failure in this concept was that it was grey.
Thanks to the death of the education systems & the proliferation of Politically leaning media, you can only make black / white or right / wrong decisions.
A grey solution does not fit.
It is the only solution, Iâve rattled on about it more than I ever did about gold becauseit is so bloody obvious.
But it wonât happen.
So the Russians will do it themselves with Bashar & the media & Western Politicos will call them names and ramp up the useless sanctions. It will get solvedand Russia will then get asked to help others out in the region and bingo has a power base of Syria Iran and probably Iraq.
But thatâs OK CallmeDave will still have Piglet
Oh
Eid Mubarak everyone.
Just think, with this huge influx, next year youâll all be able to have 4 days Eid Vacation and slaughter your own goats as well. More holidays for you! (unless youâre self-employed or on zero hours of course)
Oiiiiiiiiiii!!!
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @Dubai_Phil
Oh
Eid Mubarak everyone.
Just think, with this huge influx, next year youâll all be able to have 4 days Eid Vacation and slaughter your own goats as well. More holidays for you! (unless youâre self-employed or on zero hours of course)
Oiiiiiiiiiii!!!
It;s alright, you get yourself slaughtered quite often, or so Lou Lou saysâŚ
fair cop.
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @BTripz
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @Dubai_Phil
Oh
Eid Mubarak everyone.
Just think, with this huge influx, next year youâll all be able to have 4 days Eid Vacation and slaughter your own goats as well. More holidays for you! (unless youâre self-employed or on zero hours of course)
Oiiiiiiiiiii!!!
It;s alright, you get yourself slaughtered quite often, or so Lou Lou saysâŚ
fair cop.
Iâm usually far too tipsy on ale shandies to notice if Goatboy is slaughtered or notâŚ
Wasnât sure where to put this but then saw the title of the thread.
So this is how refugees are treated.
Just read this which talks about âthe otherâ. We seem to do that a lot now.
Because a large portion of the UK population are thick, believe anything fed to them by the MSM and unfortunately are inherently racist - maybe?
A large proportion of the UK population are NOT thick, they and their parents have been let down by a polarised and politicised education system despite the heroic efforts of most teachers and staff
Yeah, but what about those that are, regardless of what you say (&I donât disagree with you btw)?