So lorry drivers will have to apply for a circulation permit before they are allowed into Kent, a permit to move around their own country. Like in the old USSR. Honestly Brexiters, you voted for this, are you happy with it? Any thoughts?
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Yes. Are you aware of the unprecedented restrictions on personal freedoms that have taken place in the last six months?
Watch out! There goes your lorry permit! Burned up in the bonfire of personal liberties.
But them lorry pemits, eh? They are the TRUE symbol of the USSR, not the fact that we’ve all been cooped up for six months and have been told to inform on our neighbours.
Get a grip, man. Lorry permits.
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I am probably misunderstanding your post @pap but bear with me.
Are you saying to ignore the seemingly inevitable loss of liberties and freedoms and setting up of lorry parks resulting from Brexit and concentrate on those being lost through the government’s inability to deal with Covid-19?
The government are responsible for both so surely need to be accountable for both shit-storms.
Again apologies if I’ve misunderstood.
I’m saying get some perspective. Try to see how the average voter sees this, which will be “hey wow, there’s going to be a need to control things going in and of our major port”.
I would hazard a guess that Soviet overtones with respect to lorry permits are the furthest thing on their minds.
Now all sides do this, at all levels. Give an absolute worst case assessment without really debating the issue. I do this, but then I limit myself (these days, arf) to what I can justifiably convince the other side of.
I can argue that higher education is an aspiration tax, that means testing is generally not worth the money spent and that’ll get a hearing from Tories.
The minute you go mental you’ve lost them.
I heard Gove blathering on about this. I say ‘heard’ but within seconds of that cunt opening his blubbery gob I felt the need to stab myself in the ears with a boning knife.
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Sir Jim Ratcliffe, Britain’s richest man and hard line high profile Brexiteer has quit the UK for tax free Monaco. This comes soon after being knighted by the Queen. What a surprise, another great Brexit patriot does a runner to the EU, because nothing says taking back control and loving your country more than moving away because you don’t want to pay taxes. Strip him of his knighthood.
Presumably he knows that Monaco is part of EU customs territory, which he railed loudly against, through an agreement made with France. How will cope with all the red tape? It would be interesting to see a list of fanatical Brexiteers who have now left the country, although it would probably be quicker to list those who haven’t left.
So farewell Jim Ratcliffe, fuck you very much.
What a surprise.
Another exception being produced as representative.
Farewell rational discussion. Hello Remain fanaticism.
Arguably @Nottarf-Krap highlighting this individual is justifiable in the sense that Ratcliffe is high profile and is making a mockery of those who believe in and voted for Brexit?
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I’d buy that if it were fresh. It’s stale. So very stale.
Meh
It’s not stale, it happened very recently.
How is it stale? It was only announced today. Of course it’s relevant, this guy championed a hard brexit, made financial contributions to the leave campaign. And now a few months before the chickens come home to roost he fucks off to live in Europe, taking his vast wealth with him. I realise this sort of news is something you would rather dismiss as “remain fanaticism”, as if it is of no consequence and an exception. But it’s not is it? He’s not the first and he won’t be the last prominent, vocal and financial champion of a crash out hard brexit to be exposed as a hypocrite, unwilling to expose them selves to the consequences of what they preach. Dyson, Lawson, Rees Mogg and Redwood and their Dublin registered hedge funds, even Farage arranging EU passport’s for his kids. But you carry on cheerleading for them, I’m sure they appreciate it.
I suppose it’s a bit like Sean Connery banging on about Scottish independence despite not having lived there for years
Any how Ratcliffe has been one of the highest paying taxpayers over the last few year £110m in 2017 I think, so to be fair to him he has made a decent contribution to the pot
Out of interest it would be good to know what proportion of his actual income or taxable net worth that represented. I would suspect not much.
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Well we don’t have a net worth tax so that isn’t relevant But I would assume he declared income of circa £250m
Any gains in the value of his stake of Ineos are notional and not taxable until he crystallises it
Apologies I didn’t mean net worth, I meant the taxable value on investments, savings and other unearned income - which I guess with the right tax and investment advisors will be negligible - all done within the law no doubt.
The “ooh look at this nasty Brexiter” is very fucking stale.
It is of no consequence. It is an exception, unless you’re telling me that 17.4m are the same as him, just as you’re not the same as arch Remainer and enabler of mass murder Tony Blair.
Rich fucks do rich fuck things is the headline here. I doubt it’ll sell many papers.
Top trolling Pap 
Since when did calling someone or something out become trolling.
I am disagreeing with style, and if you don’t believe me, I have a Kent lorry permit here to prove it*
* printed in Moscow
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OK, lets not go there…
I was applauding, in a round about way.
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