Hmm. Ginger Jimmy won’t be getting his permanent move to Newsnight if he carries on like that.
Can you imagine him opening with those words Maitlis style?
What a fucking plum.
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Never really paid much heed to this bloke before, so I had a quick scan down his Twitter feed
He appears to have been struck from the same mould as many other modern day journos who are more concerned about their own profile and notoriety than what is actually reporting the news
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He’s famous for being the Remainiest of Remain “journalists”. Now that Keir Starmer is going to be offered a show on LBC, he must be bricking it.
How times have changed. 2017.
Now.
Guessing the EU is shitting itself over fisheries.
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Hard border - that Hadrian bloke was on to something
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No extension to the transition period confirmed.
Well he has balls at least to make such a bold decision during such an unprecedented global crisis… sad to think they are so shallow and obsessed they put this ahead of getting the best deal possible to help ride through this economic shitstorm… guess they feel the US deal will be great… or that they will blame a post brexit economic shit storm on COVID-19… perfect scapegoat… they must be so relieved and pissing themselve sat their good fortune…
I think we’ve been fucked about for long enough. I welcome this news.
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NO disrespect but not surprising… why the obsession with ‘fucked about long enough?’ Its like you have believe the BS like ‘we have had enough of experts’ - fact is Brexit is happening, so why not make sure we get THE fucking best deal possible that we were told would be easy… were promised would be easy? NO? Instead some folks seem to the timing is more important than the result which is … sorry to say this , but fucking stupid… you sound like fucking Gove
That quote is from one man, Michael Gove. Let’s not try and normalise that.
I think we’ll get a better deal, if there is one to be had, if the EU knows we’re not going to be fucked about.
The EU does not give a fuck about us… that is the big fucking surprise Boris et al are in for (and soft brexiteers) especially after this pandemic… we will be left sucking off Trump for any scraps…
That’s the most sensible remark you’ve made so far. And you’re absolutely correct.
The EU do not, and never did, give a fuck about us, or for that matter any other member state individually. They are only interested in “the project”. Which like it or not is the main driver of us leaving it, the UK voted for autonomy above integration. The autonomy might be illusory, probably is, but that’s what the UK voted for.
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And here’s the thing. The UK was vital for the nations that didn’t much trust the Germans or the French. The EU, at least on paper, had a triumvirate of competing nations at its core.
Now it’s France and Germany left as the dominant nations. That is not going to sit well with the smaller nations.
For the record the value of the UK’s economy was equivalent to the 19 smallest nations in the EU, combined.
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Didn’t have you done as someone with same arrogance and patronising nonsense as Pap on this subject… you need to qualify that as biassed opinion not based on any fact or evidence
The EU dont care because we have LEFT… the 'project; is the whole fucking point of the EU, so not sure how you can use it in this case. How anyone can consider trade desperate trade deals with the US and all the consequence of its cocksucking to big industry that gives precisely no fucks on environment or people, in preference to the EU is simply absurd. Its almost comically sad that so many still believe we have ‘got our country back’ with that vote… add in a good global pandemic and we are more likely to get royally fucked by the yanks in any terms and conditions which the clowns in charge will happily enter us into… But as I said, COVID-19 is a fucking godsend for those twats as they now have the perfect scapegoat for when the economy remains royally fucked.
Will be interesting to see how our ‘recovery’ compares to that of the major EU nations, but I won’t hold my breath that it will make any difference to the believers… after all, they dont care given how important sovereignty is above everything else, and they can now blame the food bank increases on COVID…
The government’s complete fuck up of COVID is happening.
The government’s confirmation that we’re not extending the transition period is happening.
These are not related events. It has always been the government’s position to not extend the transition period, to get Brexit done, if you will.
You may complain about it, but they campaigned on it, and won a general election on it.
This is a democratic trope, not an aberration.
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There’s nothing arrogant or patronising about pointing out the simple truth in what you said. All I’ve seen from you in this debate is a dogged refusal to accept that the referendum result was anything more than a twisted aberration driven by a combination of racism, xenophobia, gullibility and ignorance. It wasn’t; it was a democratic vote with the issues clearly set out. The public were asked for a decision, and they duly provided it. Even recently you’re clinging to the notion that because the last election involved parties with a deliberately ambiguous stance on brexit by offering a second referendum, which was plainly for electoral advantage as they knew they couldn’t hope to get majority support by standing against the decision which the voters had already taken, that this was somehow confirmation that the public had in fact changed their minds en-masse and now wanted another referendum to right the wrong that they had done. This is palpable nonsense, and clutching at straws.
What you said regarding the EU’s attitude towards us in your previous post was correct. There’s nothing patronising about agreeing with you.
So you are saying there is nothing that should alter that view? They should just plough ahead regardless of the global economic collapse? With their record of managing challenging situations? Really? this is NOT about democracy as Brexit will happen, its about being fucking realistic and pragmatic given a huge global economic and healthcare crisis… you seriously still support this? really? Is there nothing that would make you see an extension as necessary? Sorry, but if you are critical of this Government for its fuck ups on COVID, how can you support that they plough on regardless, blind to the shitstorm to come… ?? Unfucking believable… this is obsessive fundamentalism…
NO, I have said that this contributed to it… and it only needed small element of this to deliver the result given the ‘closeness’ of the result - as subtle but important difference that seems to have bee lost on many brexiters and their ‘remoaner’ bollocks
Yes, they did, but can you honestly say that the BUS bollocka sn Farages racist posters were appropriate ‘campaign’ material designed to provide a truly democratic outcome? seriously?
NO i have never said that, I have merely stated that the split of the vote DID provide a majority for those who CLEARLY indicated a second vote or were against brexit. You cant twist taht and suggest it was ambiguous, it was not. It does not mean a people changed their minds ‘en masse’ but that it DOES suggest many those were comfortable with further consultation on the issue - again a subtle yet important distinction
You know full well what I meant, so stop being a smart arse about it. They no longer care because we are out and our long term economic welfare is of fuck all concern to them. Whatever some might think, our 250bn of trade with etc EU is a lot easier to deal with when split amongst 20+ counties then teh reverse.
The BUS bollocks really outweighed every major party recommending Remain, then? And the BBC doing the same? Do you really have so little regard for the public? Everything the establishment could stack was stacked in Remain’s favour. I’m amazed that so many years later you’re still disputing the result. As to the notion that the EU suddenly don’t give a fuck about us only because we’re leaving the bloc “and our long term economic welfare is of fuck all concern to them”, well, that’s just risible. Of course it matters to them, if you honestly believe that it doesn’t then by definition you ought to believe that our leaving makes no economic difference to us either.
What was parody in 1990 becomes reality in 2020/21.
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