That’s the medical definition, yes?
Yeah, my youngest daughter,who has never been more than chubby in her life, got that one too.
So basically we should take no notice of the medical definition? Which definition would be appropriate in your opinion?
Needing a dialing wand.
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Needing assistance with shoelace-tying, I’d have said.
The UK Global Tariff announced.
American obesity has less to do with US agricultural standards and more to do with:
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They eat too much
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They don’t exercise enough
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What they eat is often deep fried or processed - loaded with calories
I doesn’t matter how you raise the chicken, if you deep fry it, you are going to get fat
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… 50% of goods tariff free… will be very interesting to analyse what and where these goods are… and will that really protect UK business or simply line pockets of US firms?(Goods that we dont produce) Any deal with the US will see imports of "cheaper’ lower quality food standards - They are allowed higher hormone levels in meat, etc than under EU regs, and we all know the chlorinated chicken story which is ultimately about producing cheaper chicken…
The US see the UK as a perfect market for these goods because we embraced the supermarket and cost driver culture much more than our European cousins - who prefer locally sourced seasonal markets and FLAVOUR, to cheap… Given our culture is for cheap over taste, I think the US imports will do well… but will see many of our own farmers start to feel an even bigger pressure than under EU regs…
As I keep saying, the US food market is a bit more nuanced than that. I also don’t accept your generalisations about knowing what the US sees the UK market as, or Europeans being uniquely interested in fresh, locally sourced produce.
Most citizens in the EU simply don’t have the choice to try food from other markets due to the prohibitive common external tariff, ridiculously applied to things that the EU cannot produce itself.
The US will be one of many places that we can buy our food from, and for the first time in nearly 50 years, we’ll be shopping in a market, not a racket.
Of course its more nuanced, but maybe you are missing the point a little - The folks in the EU generally DO care more about the quality and taste of their food and are highly protective of it… It is much more about taste than price… as reflected in less supermarkets and more local markets. If you have spent any considerable time in Italy, Germany, France, Spain or others you will have been exposed to this.
The EU regulations ARE much stricter on what you can and cant put in food or which pest- and herbicides can be used, or use of GM for for example, and importantly the LABELLING when these are used… All of this will be subject to revision if we are to accept trade deals with the US… Its the largest reason for lower imports into the EU, not because of tariffs but simply because the regs are stricter.
You may not give a shit what you eat or how the products are produced or labelled, but many of us do.
The price of a trade deal with etc US, will be removal of these stricter labelling and production standards as without that most US fresh produce or cereal based product would not be legal in UK under present regulations (EU derived) - wait and see and then you can decide whether you want the Cheeper US chlorinated chicken for your kids, or Local a organic bird at 4x the price… but one thing I can tell you now, Boris and Gove and your Brexit fanboys won’t be eating the cheap shit, just like their kids wont be going back to school early… but you made your choice of which bed to lie in in 2016…
Your blind faith in the restoration of the ‘free market’ is all very Tory to…
Brits are gonna be gutted when they realise they all gonna start having to drive Detroit Dustbins.
Bumbling down a country lane with the shopping out in the rain in your 3m wide F150 when one comes the other way.
Litsl having to upgrade his slider mobile to a Motorola or Google Pixel.
HP sauce replaced by A1 steak sauce.
No Marmelade, only Jelly.
Fox News UK and 20 minute ad breaks for medication on ITV.
Ed Sheeran doing the half time Premiership Playoff Fonal Show
Chlorinated chicken will seem like Shangri-la
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We don’t need a trade deal with the US.
We’ve never had one, and yet, we’re each others biggest inward investors. Funny that.
I’ve eaten chlorinated chicken. I think I’d rather eat that than campylobacter.
Indeed, but if you treat the animals correctly and apply high hygiene standards throughout the production process you don’t need to chlorinate the chickens… the chlorination is just about cutting costs as it masks poor production standards… like I said if you are happy eating that shit fill your boots but given Europe is not constantly ill eating non chlorinated chicken your argument is let’s be honest a bit KFC (kompletely fucking crap)
As to the need for a US trade deal, we were told by the great and the good of Brexit )your new right wing pals) that it would be great for our country and its currently a priority on the Govermnents agenda… so maybe take you should remind your mate Boris that we don’t need it…
I don’t blame the government for making arrangements with the US a priority. However, I don’t think a trade deal is the way to do it, especially when we’ve got something that already works.
The Tories are in power for the foreseeable. They may be so shamed after this crisis that they allow the public a chance to propose new leadership, but it’s doubtful.
As @CB-Saint said on the day after the election, that is going to be a very difficult majority to overturn and as long as the Labour Party keeps trying to scupper it (it’s agitating for it’s deal, any deal position again) the seats it needs to win will never trust it again, a repeat of what happened in Scotland.
I don’t think it’s an either/or somehow. Don’t know about campylobacter, but the US averages about 1.35 million salmonella cases per annum, according to the CDC. That’s compared to the UK’s figure of less than 10,000 (9,490 in 2015), or indeed the whole of the EU that same year (94,623 confirmed cases).
As MoT says, it’s about standards of animal welfare and hygiene throughout the process of turning them into meat. Chlorination is used to allow lower standards in both areas; the problem is that it can’t fully compensate for those same low standards.
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Also, we can’t rule out that a side effect of eating chlorinated chicken is that you end up like @pap
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Fascinating contribution to the debate, as always.
New Zealand has a particular issue with it in chicken - they are one of the countries that exports a lot of quality meat to the US, so i wanted to see if they were forced to import chlorinated chicken, as is the story.
Nope, they’re eating their own, and a sizeable proportion of it has that bacteria.
As I keep saying, Americans don’t buy any old shit. They may not have the labelling standards of the EU, but the firms that do it right absolutely go out of their way to tell you how they’re doing it right.
The consumer has a choice, and will have more choice than to buy any old shit from the US. I’d be wary of importing NZ chicken though