So you believe the tories will win an election, but we shouldn’t be worried about the shit deal they will happily sign with the USoWH?
Don’t say they’ll need a massive majority, because 2010 onwards proves they don’t need that to destroy the country.
What amazes me is that some seem desperate for Boris’s deal to go through to ‘get brexit done’, when its worse the Mays which they opposed… especially when it changes wording around workers rights, removal of regulations that open doors for lower standards in our working practices, HSE, easier access to our markets, from less regulated countries.
Now its true that for this to become enshrined in UK law it needs to get through parliament, But any believing this will be defeated by a Labour Government is sadly misguided… the while situation has been engineered to ensure that does not happen, from the day Cameron gave in to offer the vote to the people… Because ether are just enough in the Country who for a variety of reasons do not like the EU, to make sure of it - and who will vote even against their own parties in a GE, when Brexit is the only issue.
I am just surprised that a) some dd not see this from the outset, b) they voted brexit despite knowing it
Thes things are ALWAYS strategically planned. For example, the Tories ‘experimented’ with policy in Scotland, in effect slowly but surely leading to voters actually taking the SNP seriously - designed to wipe out 45 odd secure labour seats which it did, despite what we heard about the ‘Union being so important to the Tories’
These are al devious clever fuckers and teh voting public always understates their long game…
Yeah the fact that it is May’s deal, just with all protections taken out(remember Cameron and the party of “the bonfire of red tape”) is telling, especially when you look at who in her own party voted against it(easiest deal in history?).
When you say “devious clever fuckers” i take it you’re talking about the people behind the figurehead and not the fool himself. No clever person gets caught lying as often as him and with such weak lies.
To show the lie behind the whole shit show we only have to go back and look at what a leave vote was claimed to have meant, by every single one of them. I’m surprised no leave voters are annoyed at all the lies they were told to win their vote.
The extension date was the most worrying part. Plays to the main goals of the people that are really behind this.
Yup, I think they’ll win.
They will need a large majority to implement any of their plans, but I suspect they might get that too.
That’s what happens when the opposition spend their time writing the Conservatives’ campaign material for them.
And do you know what the saddest thing is? Remainers will be too busy pissing loser tears to notice the austerity in their midst and actually work for a Labour government, just as they have been for the past three years.
I would disagree… to some extent… because as with Trump, the superficial public clowning , lies, fake news, idiocy, is the perfect distraction from the real shit going on in the background… so right now the discussion is all about Boris being a clown and the election, whilst public dissection of the actual deal is limited to the few and on page 17… so very serious issues like the removal of workers rights instead of there being a public outcry, is lost… a very clever distraction technique.
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No saddest thing is, 3.1 million labour voters, who went against pragmatism to satisfy their stubborn principles and self righteousness who have led to a situation where the Tories can fuck the country…
Remainer who are stubbornly protesting against his deal now, are doing so because they know what is to come, and always did.
You just can’t admit that those 3.1m fucked it up and have fucked those standing in the foodbank queues
That’s a really strange view.
Was it the leavers or stayers that voted against their own party in elections over the last few years, giving the tories and their press the opportunity to blanket everyone with the usual headlines, whilst saying it wouldn’t change the outcome of a general election?
If they take blame, you do as well. Probably to a larger extent.
Fight on the tories side and you’ll get a tory government. If no deal is worth that, well done you.
Yeah, their all in it, but the fool is just a gameshow host directed every step of the way.
It does seem to work quite well unfortunately
Don’t forget the years of made up shit about EU rules (which did not actually exist) slowing chipping away at the faith folks have in it as an institution… not just big Daily Mail bigotry, but the small things that are easy to lap up if you don’t fact check
Papers that are against the EU because restrictions it puts on privacy and ownership … spreading lapped up self serving bullshit
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Corbyn says conditions now met for GE.
It’s on. In some form.
So what exactly changed between last night when they were not supportive and now?
Maybe that they were outflanked by the SNP and Libs and were looking isolated?
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Labour had no-deal taken of of the table. What that actually means I have no clue.
It’s also being reported that they’re pushing for EU nationals to be allowed to vote and 16 year olds…
BBC News - Labour to back early general election
Not sure why. No deal is still on the table. Just might be eating that lunch at the end of January 2020.
Well at least you will be happy if your prediction comes true and Johnson gets his large majority, which will enable him to implement his far right Brexit, tearing up protections on workers rights, the environment, destroying what remains of the NHS, looking after his billionaire backers by opting out of the rules on tax dodging and all the rest of it. So lets have no more of your nonsense pretending you are a ‘Lefty’.
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Hey! Try not to put all people who voted remain in the same bucket. I don’t do the same for people who voted leave.
I see austerity and have to work with the cuts. The 3 years of Leave has postponed any chance of trying to sort any of it out.
It doesn’t help.
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It’s not three years of Leave though, is it?
It’s three years of people fucking about and three general election requests spurned by the opposition.
All on 80K a year, minimum.
Sorry, but if Remain is still a priority for you when you can see, up close and personal, the effects of austerity, then I am putting you in that bucket.
Johnson accepted (with a signed letter!) the extension.
£79K. £80K would mean paying more tax 
Did I say that?
Nope.
We should have been dealing with austerity all along but this has been a fabulous way to not.
Anyway I said I’d not get into these debates.
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This article reminds us of the deals already agreed and the undemocratic powers the far right will get. Some of it even looks like you wrote it
“This overly fluffed up 102-page document published alongside the Withdrawal Agreement Bill effectively hands unprecedented powers to the government that no peace-time government has ever had in Britain. Imagine that in the hands of people like Dominic Cummings and Jacob Rees-Mogg, let alone Boris Johnson. This is what Donald Trump has wet dreams about – not being accountable to congress.”
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