👨 👨🏽 👨🏿 Black Lives Matter protest

What sort of chair? Just trying to form a picture.

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An old 3-legged wonky stool facing into the corner. Is what my friend told me it was like… *cough*

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Funny you should mention this, as I have one of those ‘Nike’ black and white wrist bands, this messes with my head slightly, for the same reason!

Mark Duggan’s aunt.

We also had a black teenager killed in custody in Liverpool not so long ago, Mzee Mohammed.

Pap there is loads of injustice to black people, far to much to post on here. I’m not saying that injustice is not across the board, but the ethnic minorities get far more discrimination for sure. Unjustified force!

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I’m not even sure if anyone is arguing here…

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Ok I’ll start, I don’t agree with you, from what I can see I’m not sure if people aren’t not arguing. So there.

Er, if you wish to apply for the post of the bloke who argues that black is white just to get attention, I’m afraid that post is currently filled, and has a short waiting list.

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These threads always get a little embarrassing for ignorant fucks who’ve spent most of their lives growing up in sunny Hampshire.

No I was just being flippant on a reasonably serious discussion thread. You can blame Bearsy, he has warped my fragile little mind :lou_wink_2:

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I think it shows the huge problems there are with race issues, when you see the amount of white English people on the protest.

“Unite Against Racism”.

Has anyone done any stats on how many posts it takes for a new thread to go off topic…get back on topic…for Bearsy to drag it down a notch…Pap to go all left wing…Bletch to mention Brew Dog* …and for someone to actually post something about the Saints that makes sense and is accurate? If not someone should dammit!

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*allegedly the bast brewery in the world…not

Lol Pap the riots really were literally just looting and criminality. It might not be normal or healthy for a society but it wasn’t part of some grand poltiical movement.

However - regarding the ‘All Lives Matter’ slogan - it does come off as a little bit snide regardless of how its intended. In a vacuum it’s obviously a perfectly positve/neutral statement but in context, its essentially an appeal to ignore variances in how different races are treated. Its a rhetorical ‘shut down’ and a bit of a straw-man by stealth in that it’s designed to mischaracterise the BLM slogan as claiming some kind of black superiority.

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Did the Chinese and Indian population join in or was this an exclusive riot?

Why did Mark Duggan carry a firearm?

I had quite a long reply typed out but my hotel WiFi dropped out .and lost the lot.

in summary:

  • regardless of how he died he was a wrong-un who lived by the sword and if he hadn’t been taken out by the police would in the fullness of time died by the sword. Forget the mealy mother comments that it was racism or society against him, he could have conformed, played the system and done well if he had the drive to do so. He didn’t choose to, Ffs
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Oh, just to add, I feel desperately sad for his family.

Saints have not bought anyone today, so I think we should all be worried Watford will thrash us next week

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Originally posted by @MrTrampoline

Lol Pap the riots really were literally just looting and criminality. It might not be normal or healthy for a society but it wasn’t part of some grand poltiical movement.

Technically, I agree that criminality is a reasonable description for what went on. People were committing criminal acts, so you’re covered.

It doesn’t really answer any questions though. We could refer to it all as “stuff”, and we wouldn’t really be that better educated than we are now.

Indeed, it might prompt the question, why did this “stuff” happen?

I know plenty of wrong’uns. Even they’re not wrong’uns all the time, mostly when they’re skint. I think there are a number of elements to the riots. The legitimate spark, the contagion into the middle class. Criminality just doesn’t do it for me. I feel that there are further questions to be asked.

I wouldn’t do it. Why would someone else?

However - regarding the ‘All Lives Matter’ slogan - it does come off as a little bit snide regardless of how its intended. In a vacuum it’s obviously a perfectly positve/neutral statement but in context, its essentially an appeal to ignore variances in how different races are treated. Its a rhetorical ‘shut down’ and a bit of a straw-man by stealth in that it’s designed to mischaracterise the BLM slogan as claiming some kind of black superiority.

Upvoted for this, and I’ll refrain from language that’s too provocative. All I’ll say is that the appears-as-white experience has been pretty easy from an authorities point of view, particularly when you have a surname that is commonly perceived as English. I’ve been stopped by the rozzers twice in my life, both times deserved, have never been attacked by someone on account of my race, and have never felt that I’ve missed a job interview because of it either.

White peeps really don’t have a clue, and when they say stuff like All Lives Matter, it somewhat overlooks the fact that black parents have to tell their kids to be wary of the authorities, with some justification.

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