Being a member of or facilitating a banned organisation, Iâve already said this, she has incriminated herself by saying she doesnât regret it, youâre right maybe her family are liable.
Her child should not be hers anymore until she is de radicalised as you say she is brainwashed, but she is still a criminal.
Being brainwashed doesnât absolve you of crimes against humanity.
Meh, Cynically I see this a a convenient divisive story to deflect from Brexshit
I am wearing my tinfoil hat so Iâm safe.
Bazza was right all along. Who knew.
Well Barry did, 3rd person and all.
She was a child when she was groomed to go. She was a child until she was 18. We have a criminal system that has an age of resposibilty at 10 years.
More should have been done then to safeguard her when she was here in the UK.
She probably is desensitised to what she has seen. Thatâs quite usual. We have no idea of her home life but for others who witness abuse in the home it can go two ways. One itâs normal and using violence is fine. The other is to not use violence. Maybe the trauma of losing her children has had an impacy too.
From a brief review of twitter it would seem most donât want her to return. She hasnât (yet) been made stateless so I suppose she can come back and be dealt with by the authorities. Not sure what would happen to baby once born. She would be monitored a huge amount if out in the community.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
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What if I were to say the intelligence services would love her to return so they can monitor the community even more?
What is the problem here?
ISIS were fighting to overthrow the legitimate government of Syria. The UK were fighting to overthrow the legitimate government of Syria. We were on the same side, with common aims. An inconvenient truth maybe, but a truth nonetheless. Oh what a tangled web we weave- - - - - .
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Personally I am i n the they left for Syria, they shouldnât be allowed back camp.
Oh so they were groomed. Doesnât do it for me, you could take that defence into almost every corner of Law Oh I wasnât responsible the TV made me do it⌠Not going to debate it, itâs my view.
But, it is illegal to declare a Citizen stateless, so unless she was an immigrant who went through a process and signed something saying she could lose her Citizenship for being non compliant then we canât keep her out. (Perhaps something to add into the naturalisation process?)
Equally, Trump has weighed in today and, unfortunately, for once he make a rather valid and damning point. This is NOT about one runaway âBrideâ. The US & Kurdish Authorities currently hold over 800 foreign âfightersâ (Terrorists) if you prefer, and he is demanding that all other Nations take them back and try them.
Of course, we donât have clear laws (or evidence that would hold up in UK courts to be able to try every single one of them.
So this isnât a one Mum problem, itâs about 800 highly trained anti-western culture terrorists about to be dumped back onto the streets of Europe.
Been here before⌠CIA arming Afghan Mujahadin (spelling?) against the SovietsâŚ
CIA arming Iraq against Iran
The inconvenient truths of historical context
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Will have to disagree with you on the bit about being groomed. Lots of work around children being radicalised. Some use same tactics as sexual exploitation and gangs.
Chidren are children until 18. They are considered vulnerable until then.
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Shame there isnât such sympathy from the liberal elite for the Rotherham, Oxford and Huddersfield victims of grooming.
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Does that mean I was a vunerable child when sent on my apprenticeship at the age of 16
My father sold me to the CEGB
Who do I sue
They should be brought back and at least be 4 years long otherwise it is just a training course not a career course.
Who are the liberal elite again?
I very much have sympathy for those girls. I have worked with people who have been groomed. But as yet none by older men of a certain ethnicity. Itâs often relatives/friends of family/males same age as young person.
I wasnât aware that i was sympathizing with anyone. I was just pointing out the rank hypocrisy of our governments. Plenty of documented evidence of our security services facilitating, ie, supplying passports, flights etc for Muslim British citizens, sending them on their way to do our bidding in Syria, and to a lesser extent Libya. Our hands are far from clean.
The grooming in Rotherham etc, although disgraceful, has absolutely nothing to do with the topic under discussion here. But of course you know that really. But i suppose it allows you to use one of your buzzwords, ie, Liberal Elite, whoever they may be.
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Anyone Bazza doesnât likeâŚthought you knew. Like a lot of cliche he usesâŚhe read it somewhere and liked the sound of it. 
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Would she treat us with respect and dignity if we lost a battle?
That said the West is far far better than her dogma and beliefs and we can only hope she has as you say been brainwashed, when she has recovered hopefully she can join mainstream British society.
Of which what do you make of this?
Ah the religion of peace and toleranceâŚ
Eh?
I canât keep up.