Iāve posted consistently that the system is flawed.
It has not suddenly happened. What year did Spin Doctors first come into public awareness? Use of Boundary Changes.
The fact is that weak leadership, muddled messages are to blame along with arrogant ignorance of the needs of the people.
It is not as if this is new. The shuffling idiocy of imagining Michael Foot could lead a Scout Troop let alone a Nation is a simple example as is the thought that the currently vilified IDS had leadership skills.
The fact is Britain was a muddled mess since the referendum. Corbyn split the Remain camp and the Tories listened that people were fed up with Brexit.
At the end of the day while devious means may have been used, one simple message caused most of the damage.
In the blood letting & jostling for position of the left factions, someone has to come up with answers, not wringing hands and denial.
Not really, the turnout could be up in some places and down in the other, its not a conspiracy, we got our arses kicked, youāre just blanketing the whole exercise as you didnāt like the result.
I didnāt like the result but there is no conspiracy, we got dry fucked up the arse as people believed Johnson when he said heād get Brexit done, this isnāt rocket science.
Most Labour MPās of either persuasion think this as well, apart from the flat earth sotonians society of course, they just have to be different about this Country.
Its tiresome.
From what I can see this is new registrations, and that was made up of mostly the under 35s
Everyone turning up early to vote before going to work or in their lunch break as they didnāt want to be out in the cold wet evening? Was there queues all day long or just for short periods?
Older people, who were already registered to vote, not going out to vote as it was too cold and wet. This was mooted when the date for the election was set.
Lots of numbers add up unless youāre looking for them not to
As I posted on the day and so did others, there were long queues early in the morning at some polling stations in London. I donāt think there were long queues all day long, or at every polling station, even in London, never mind nationwide. It was a popular date for work Christmas parties so many people voted early who would normally do so in the evening. Add in the dark, cold and wet evening of a rare December election and people got it done early.
When I did my vote there was one other voter in the hall and then I passed two on the way out. I have long suspected that the labour voters had been kidnapped hence the quiet hall.
What if they registered to vote but then forgot to actually do so? Busy time of year, lots to think about. I almost forgot to vote because I had to get some vegan mince pies for one of the family coming for dinner.
One thing looks likely. There are too many divisions within the Labour Party and its members to make the forthcoming Leadership contest look anything like a complete fuckfest of infighting, insults and recriminations. The social media shitshow from some blame-seeking, whinging Corbynistas to the gleeful, cock waving told-you-so bollocks from some of the moderate left, only serves to reinforce this view. The likely outcome will serve to cement Johnson and his Party in Government. The media will be all over Labour with the same stuff they (so easily) planted on Corbyn (because he was so inept at defending it) - āhow can you govern the Country when you canāt even present as a united Party?ā
Iām not a member of the Labour Party, but i will say this, for fucks sake lads, sort yourselves out. This Country needs an effective opposition and not another 10 years of Tory rule.
Nopeā¦ we were continually TOLD that people were fed up with Brexitā¦ IF from the outset, the communication was clear that negotiations of the deal and then subsequently the actual deal would take between 3-5 years to minimise disruption to our economy ā¦ everyone except Farage would most likely have understood that,ā¦ but it always suited BORIS teal to push the āfrustration messageā and spin the shit of āeveryone is fed upā - (never see ANY data /evidence for this) because its got him where he is nowā¦ That was Plannedā¦ and many have fallen for it - because they also spread shit that that suggested if its not done quickly it may never happenā¦ ergo your vote counted for nothingā¦ again all smoke and mirrors, yet with a huge brass neck, they get away with their own āproject fearāā¦
Corbyn may well have divided opinion, but much of that was based on the character smears that many could not be arsed to determine if they were true or not because they simply wanted too āget brexit doneā - for the reasons indicated aboveā¦
No idea what this has to do with my response to Polskiā¦ but then again deciphering your crazy ramblings is often a challengeā¦ for those that can be arsed of courseā¦
No idea what this has to do with my response to Polskiā¦ but then again deciphering your crazy ramblings is often a challengeā¦ for those that can be arsed of courseā¦
Apologies to Bletch if this needs to moveā¦ but its not aimed at anyone, but a a very nice lyrical POV of maybe how I view thingsā¦ and this was nearly 20 years agoā¦ but some nice Johnny Marr guitar work anyway
How did Remainers and Leavers vote in the election?
Itās been pitched as the Brexit election, so did people actually vote according to their stance on the European Union?
YouGov have been looking into this. And its survey of 40,000 British adults suggests the Conservatives did manage to win the votes of around three-quarters of Leave voters.
Labour, on the other hand, only managed to attract about half of Remain voters - a reduction in the share they had in the 2017 election.
That drop came mainly at the hands of the Lib Dems, who boosted their vote share amongst Remain voters to 21%, up from 12% in 2017:
The Conservatives didnāt manage to hold on to their Remainers - down to 19% from 25% in 2017.
But Labour didnāt hold onto Leavers either - their vote share amongst Leavers was 14%, down from 24% in 2017.
