🤪 2019 General Election Discussion :gov:

Interesting piece of disinformation being circulated here - in this instance from @Cobham-Saint late of this parish RIP.

Encouraging people to spoil their ballot. Which would obviously result in the vote not counting.

https://twitter.com/CobhamSaint/status/1204828219607855105?s=20

And here is a fake account promoting the spoiling of papers.

https://twitter.com/BrexitPartyGB/status/1204762013001539584?s=20

Keep trying. You decide to put vane principle that you felt gave you some sort of moral democratic superiority ahead of practical reality that will keep the poorest in the shit… you are the one who will have to live with that… even if you won’t admit it, you only have yourself to blame…

And how might you characterise the architects of those policies?

Keir Starmer? Emily Thornberry? Hilary Benn?

Latter day Remainers. The point still stands.

I don’t disagree with you, btw. It is Labour policy which’ll kill them, but it’s only one policy.

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As I’ve repeatedly said, a Tory majority is only possible because of public resentment over Brexit, amplified by a billion little personal interactions people have had with other people that think they’ve known better than the rest of the electorate, falsely accusing them of all sorts.

If Brexit had run to plan, the Tories would have nothing right now. Nothing.

Well done latter day Remainers. You gave them everything.

Thanks for that. It helps confirm what i thought, which now puts the bbc correspondent for the tory pary right in the middle of what must be election fraud.
Are the bbc covering it?

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I feel sorry for the fridge, but not as sorry as i feel for the poor women that have suffered the same fate🤮

I do think you underestimate the Corbyn effect. On a single issue you would have Tories voting for other parties in their droves, however more Tory voters fear Corbyn far more than Brexit so will vote down the traditional lines

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Not according to the yougov polls of tory seats they won’t.
Read the Craig Murray article.

That’s impressive guesswork, mate.

Personally, I couldn’t begin to fathom the impact of Labour turning its back on circa 8m Remain voters to align itself with a guaranteed Leave option.

Especially as the Lib Dems had done so well in the European elections.

My best guess would have been that if Labour had aligned with Leave and the Lib Dems had been the only Remain (mainstream) party on the ballot, and with Johnson’s cabal of cunts being so rabidly right-wing that they’ve ended the Brexit party as a credible vote winner, then those who felt Remain was important would have voted Lib Dem.

My guess sees Labour get squeezed by the Tories for the Leave vote and the Lib Dems for the Remain vote.

I guess your guess is better than my guess.

Damned if they do and damned if they don’t. For me.

I guess that if blame is important to you, then those that voted Leave might have to shoulder a little bit of it.

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Not a chance.

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Rather not read anything by Murray - blokes a fucking loon

But correct more than any msm publication.
Do you want to be told what you’d like to hear, or something closer to the truth?
As the headline suggests, there are massive shifts, but they’re not being reported and they are away from the far right Johnson party.

That said, i do understand how he can get people’s backs up(and diverts from his own point(i’m a master at that)).
A small example of a good point ruined(?) at the start.

ā€œFor every racist dullard voting for Johnson’s dog whistle racism, there is an urbane Tory in Wokingham or similar towns refusing to vote for him for the same reason. Yet our televisions and radios have for a month been crammed with literally hundreds of selected representatives of the former group and virtually nil of the latter groupā€

Indeed, rock and hard place… Majority of Labour supporters were Remain… I would hazard a guess because they recognised the challenges of ensuring we get the country out of the shame of food banks was better served by a more stable economic outlook, coupled with perhaps a more socialist view on opportunity for migrants in and out… so 8mil remainders vs approx 3 mil leavers… vs supporting the ā€˜democratic’ outcome of a referendum, most accept was influenced heavily by misinformation, lies and further by right wing ideology and in some cases bigotry and racism…

Seems to me, Corbyn’s policy is actually a fair and fine compromise to find a path that gives folks an opportunity to validate their choices following further insights, and have a democratic say inn any deal… how anyone can consider this both undemocratic or a reason for handing the GE to a cunt of a narcissist is beyond me… The problem is NOT labours policy, but the idiocy of around 4 mil of the electorate that hold all the power in our little democratic paradise…

It is bloody cold out and there are some real troopers out there trying to unseat IDS.

I hope Faiza Shaheen does win. :crossed_fingers:

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That was on my face book feed yesterday as well I had great control and did not respond to it.

He just avoids everything. Must be in another fridge.

Yes it does.