Who is going to come off best from this?
https://twitter.com/itvpresscentre/status/1190313005231280128?s=09
The logic of what most people want and what each candidate really offer should determine it.
One waffles a load of lying shit(keep plugging that Labour because the one thing that canāt be denied is that the PM is a habitual liar) and the other offers a change from the decline of the last 40 years.
Iād guess a pre scripted show(like Clintonās), Johnson would do a May otherwise. The presenter will feed/join in lies like the anti apartheid bollocks to keep the debate off real life issues for the bulk of people.
Hope iām wrong, but the odds donāt look good. Whoās fronting it? How they behave determines the outcome.
Boris is a different ball-game than Theresa. Not necessarily better, but different. Whatever you think of the man, he is a naturally gifted speaker on the right material.
This is a debate between the now PM and Mary Beard. Different ball-game.
A debate on the only thing his cocaine addled mind has ever retained.
Heāll be made to look the fool he is on real issues(if allowed).
This is a different ball game all together(again, if allowed).
Naturally gifted speaker? Are you serious? Have you seen him at pmqs? He is awful. All bluster, lies, waving his arms around. Next you will be telling us that you want Labour to win the election. Really sad.
Please donāt truncate my words without the qualification I gave them.
These are BBC levels of omission.
Absolute bollocks. Donāt truncate my words? Wtf does that mean? Johnson may impress you when he is debating Greek v Romans with Mary beard but what on earth has that got to do with debating the real issues facing the country? Admit it, you donāt want a corbyn labour party to win the election, you would rather Johnson won it because he would deliver your holy grail of a hard brexit. With all the misery a Johnson led government would bring to working class people in this country. That wouldnāt matter as long as you get what you want. You really have turned 180 degrees from your left wing socialist beliefs, which I really admired a couple of years ago.
Going on what Iāve seen in the Commons, Corbyn will wipe the floor with Johnson in a head to head debate. Johnson will drag it down to insults about Hamas/IRA but thatās all heās got. The public wonāt be swayed by a lot of blabbering and Latin.
It does come across as an advert for Pfeffel and his lying ways.
On all important issues heās proved himself a lying fraud, so look, hereās possibly the only time heās looked half intelligent.
Hope pap is getting some of that huge amount being spent.
I said he was a naturally gifted speaker on the right material.
I posted a video which bears that out.
The question you should be asking is what material Boris Johnson will bring to these debates, not what material you can excise from another posterās point to change its meaning and make it look like unqualified praise.
Ancient Greece or Rome are surely off the table.
Heās fucked if thereās any impartially from the presenter.
You used to know these things a couple of years ago.
Take the advert to FB or twatter. They love the distraction from what his job entails(it aināt ancient Greece).
I will accept that if the electorate want to put a cross in the box for the candidate most likely to bore the shit out of an ancient civilisations sixth form class then Fucko the clown has a good chance.
Any sign of stressful challenge in the debate and Fucko will revert to type. He will attack, divert and dismiss. If there is any sort of capable moderator he will get butt fucked. Will he tell Jezza to āget stuffedā? Will it be āhogwashā?
Whoās the face and whoās the person in their ear telling them what to do?
Iām expecting the lifelong anti racist to get bombarded with questions about his non existent racism, whilst the lifelong open racist gets fuck all questions on his ingrained exceptionalist spoutings.
Oh for a free press.
Iāve not pitched in one way or the other. There is a lot you can take from Borisā overall performance in that video, and it is not all good. At the very beginning, when Marr speaks of the housing crisis in London during the intro, BJ yells claptrap and rubbish.
When he gets onto the Greece stuff, heās very good.
Heās going to be on more difficult ground than Ancient Greece when he goes into that debate. If he yells claptrap or rubbish in response to a genuine concern there, he could be fucked, and Corbyn will fuck him there and then.
In terms of public perception, Corbyn will probably win these debates, if only because some people have such a low opinion of Corbyn that he can only go up.
Very very sad.
Marginal seats/tactical voting:
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I think its been Papās dilemma that he refuses to acknowledgeā¦ certainly from responses to some of the questions posedā¦ MOST/MAJORITY of labour supporters appear to have voted remain. Because despite the idealism of localised government, decentralised autonomy, the REALITY is that with demands of our position within the global economy we have simple choicesā¦ the EU represents the best option for economic stability and thus with the right Government, the best opportunity to deliver a more egalitarian outcomeā¦ the EU is not responsible for Tory austerity.
The urban myths remain rifeā¦The hideous women Widdecombe was spreading the same shit/spin earlier on 5Live, That the ācountryā voted leave, and that is allā¦ even though they knew not the implications, that it was only 17.4 mil out of 65 mil, not sure which country she meant given Scotland voted remain, and if you took the vote of those under 65 it would have been the other way roundā¦ eg the folks it will actually affectā¦ but hey fuck them all if it means a few with āprinciplesā have been satisfiedā¦ who cares about a few more needing food banks.
The Right have been fucking cleverā¦ getting socialists to vote for themā¦ 
The majority of Labour voters went for Remain in 2016. I acknowledge that. I think what you need to acknowledge is that 408 of the 650 seats voted to leave, and those Labour voters are going to be in multiple constituencies.
Some of those Labour voters will not vote for the party in this election due to its Brexit policy. Labour needed to keep its 2017 vote and add some.
Spread a few hundred thousand votes about, perhaps less (Iāve seen as low as 50k cited), and Jeremy Corbynās Labour would have had a majority in 2017. Can it really afford to lose those votes now?