:labour: Where now for Labour?

It’s not good.

The right have won their leadership rules stitch up during the conference, so they’ll still see this conference as a win, especially the likes of Mandelson.

However, Corbyn’s conferences look like smooth sailing over calm seas compared to this.

Polly Toynbee thinks that Starmer is on the ascendancy

Barring a couple of outliers, I’d expect the entire Guardian staff to line up behind him.

Not as important a role, but this councillor’s resignation letter is rather spicy.

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Indeed.

Labour are as likely to win the next election as those Britain First knuckle draggers who I see have just been reinstated as a political party by the Electoral Commission.

I suspect Keir will be happy as Larry - he looks just like the type of Labour member that he is looking to purge

You don’t suppose that the is the start of the Hard Left version of the mass resignations that the PLP used to try and oust JC

And if it can get any worse - Labour now have Bercow speaking at Fringe events.

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Angela Rayner’s job application to be leader of the Labour Party, perhaps Prime Minister.

I think she did very well here - certainly better than the wrapped up planks that people refer to as Keir Starmer.

How high on the moral outrage Richter scale would our Ange have gone if the Cock had made a comment about her appearance?

She did a good job setting him up to be shown to be bullshitting again

Sounds like she has a Sky reporter in her pocket

I did find it amusing when that photo of her smoking a cigarette did the rounds, and wondered about the intent. I don’t think she personally gives much of a fuck. She’s ginge so she’ll have gotten lifelong shit about her appearance.

Still, if someone hands you ammunition, it’s a shame not to fire it. I quite like Rayner. No-one can accuse her of being the usual privately educated Parliamentarian - the only real doubt is whether she could handle herself in shark pit. She did better than Keir usually does, while also managing to put some clear red water between them.

Quite open about wanting Boris’ job, which by implication, means she wants Starmer’s job too.

The question is whether she can appeal to the wider electorate

Her biggest weakness is her gob - if she can somehow get a grip of it and and intercept some of her thoughts before they spill out, she may well do ok

If she can’t, she will turn off the very people she needs to get elected

That said does she have a shot at the Leadership or is she still too associated to Corbyn. She made the right call going for deputy leader - Labour were never going to vote in another far left at that time. Will enough time have passed by when Kier steps down?

I’d like to think he won’t step down at all. I’m hoping for a left-wing coup resulting in him being stabbed squarely between the shoulder blades by his own colleagues.

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They need all the help they can get tbf.

Preferably with a real (metaphorically career ending) knife.

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Won’t happen. The left won’t get organised enough and will probably spend ages fighting like bald men over a comb, while the right of the party just ties things up.

I remember being at a Left Unity conference. Amusingly, there were a load of communists who’d taken the hump over a rule change and actively refused to participate, abstaining on everything - even proposals on weeding out VIP nonces.

The left don’t get the enemy of my enemy part. For a fairly accurate depiction of what goes on, just watch Monty Python’s Life of Brian.

The one thing a leftie hates more than a Tory is a different type of leftie

I like her.

I genuinely don’t hate other lefties, but it does wind me the fuck up that they can’t see the wood for the trees. Tactics are shite too. They’d rather condemn than convince and just look like arseholes when they do.