✈💣 Turkish strikes on Syria

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1182357536206479360?s=20

Yep, and the Syrians and Russians will help them by pushing them back into the fire, its just a matter of when, the Syrians won’t allow them to go further into the Country, where can they go?

Ask a straight question.

Trump may not have condoned this , but the simple twat sure as shit opened the door and turned his back and put his fingers in his ears

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BTW @Barry-Sanchez and @Saint-or-sinner can you take your Russia squabble over to the beef thread

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Here’s the thing CB and pay attention Barry, what’s going on is a NATO problem* and not caused by either of the nation’s claimed by the person who started the thread(for obvious reasons i might add).
To simplify, look at the history of the Kurds and who’s fucked them over continually, then look up what the Syrian government offered them and when. It’ll reveal a lot. For added emphasis, see if you can find any evidence of the Kurdish leadership saying they where at war with the Syrian forces.
Now Turkey(that’s NATO member Turkey remember) are going to slaughter the Kurds, about that there’s no doubt and don’t doubt it’s done without permission from the west.
So someone started a thread under what would appear false pretences(how much time has he devoted to Turkey?) to do the usual “look over there” while ignoring who’s really responsible. Yes it’s fucking tedious, but it’s also a lie that should be called such.
I’ll shut up now :roll_eyes:

*the problem for the Barry’s of this world is, where the fuck are our trained/armed/financed terrorists going to go.

Warm water port.

I appreciate the reply but you and BaZ have a long history of niggling Agro re Russia. Beef thread is where this belongs

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I haven’t made my point clearly enough then(post above yours does emphasis it though). The whole thread(from the authors point of view) is a red herring.
I’m trying to stay on subject and my questions(apart from one which was more regional) if answered would support this.
The only people shitting on the Kurds are Turkey and nations to the west of them. Anyone fortune telling about potential future events from other nations is just diversion.
So, i’ll ask again(not you) what did the Syrians offer the Kurds and when?
Was there any genuine reason for this thread?

Take it over to the Russian thread SOS please, lets keep on track.

Kurds, Syria and Turkey. I’ve mentioned them all quite a bit.
If you don’t want to talk about them, why did you start this thread?
Still struggling with that simple on subject question?
Have a go, it’ll move the thread on. That’s what you want, isn’t it?

I started it as it’ll be highly relevant in the coming days.
I ask you previously to ask a question and you haven’t.

Go back up, look for question marks(looks just like this ?).
If you want to be an arse, i didn’t put a ? when i first raised the many repeated point, so if you dare not answer it, that’s your best bet.
Until then…

You always do this, you hide a question within a statement.
Be concise.

Can you put a question separately in its own sentence like this please?

And if you think Assads offer of anything is other than poison (I can’t see anything concrete so please link unless you don’t know and are fishing) you’re a fool.
This man and his regime has denied them being citizens, banned their language in oral and written form and been found guilty of all sorts of human rights abuses against them.
Thats fact son, not some propaganda, fact, again I’ll say it fact,

You support this, what sort of man are you?

Two rats fighting in a sack.

I think I might go over to @Coxford_lou’s Syria thread, although the first one was better :smiley:

He’s gone quiet because as per he acts all aggressive and righteous yet when asked for definitive proof of his question he cedes, the Kurds aren’t rats either, they want a fucking home, they’re also left wing and in the main far more advanced than the backward societies over there.

Or he might be out having a life somewhere?

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He fires back quicker than a Russian volunteer, no chance.

Post on FB.For when you guys stop scoring points

For anyone with no understanding of what’s happening to Kurds right now, here’s a little (simplified) history lesson for you…

Kurds have been living on the land they call home now for thousands of years. After WW1 and the fall off the Ottoman Empire, the British and French promised Kurds they could continue to reside in those areas peacefully because they intended to create a country called Kurdistan. They went back on that promise and carved up the Kurdish homeland with the creation of some new countries, meaning that the Kurdistan was split between Iraq, Iran, Turkey, and Syria.

All four of those countries have persecuted their Kurdish populations ever since. Turkey has committed the worst atrocities during that time, and up until recently, the Kurdish language, Kurdish names, and more were all banned. Turkey even refuses to call the people Kurds, and refers to them as “Mountain Turks” - a slur designed to brand Kurdish people as barbaric and uneducated.

Thousands of Kurds lost their lives during the 80s and 90s fighting against their Turkish oppressions, and yet the situation barely improved.

During the first Gulf War, the US encouraged Kurds to rise up against Saddam Hussein, but then failed to protect them when they did, resulting in thousands being murdered with chemical weapons.

Cue the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

When the US, UK and other Western countries invaded Iraq, Kurds fought alongside the allies, and against Saddam’s army. They managed to create an autonomous region in Iraq because of it. When ISIS began grabbing mass amounts of land in Iraq, the Kurds fought back with allied assistance and stamped them out.

When ISIS started taking land and murdering thousands in Syria, the Syrian President Assad ordered his army to leave the region and he left millions of Kurds there to die. They would have done too if it weren’t for the assistance of coalition air strikes and weapons that allowed them to push ISIS back and carve out another autonomous region in their homeland.

That region is Rojava. The people there live under a system called Democratic Confederalism which is based on workers’ rights, equality, feminism, and ecology. In principal, this version of democracy is far more democratic than any system used in a Western country today.

The Kurds didn’t want to team up with the US in Syria, they just didn’t want to die, and they were left with no option after being abandoned by Assad.

Now the US has abandoned the Kurds and left them to die too. They’re no longer “useful” and heaven forbid America is seen to be assisting a people who don’t bow to the international banking cartel, and are determined to live in a real democracy.

The US said it wanted to bring “democracy” to the Middle East, but not THAT sort of democracy.

Assad and Russia refuse to back Kurds now because they worked with the US instead of being murdered. And Turkey (the biggest oppressor of the Kurdish people, and the country that literally funded ISIS) has invaded their land with one of the largest armies in NATO with the intention of ethnic cleansing, genocide and freeing ISIS prisoners.

The Kurdish people just can’t win. Every major global power uses them when it suits their agenda, and then they feed them to the wolves.

The US won’t stand up for the Kurds. The Syrian Government won’t stand up for them, and neither will Iran or Russia. That is why every single person with a heart reading this must raise their voice now!

There’s an old Kurdish saying that goes:

“NO FRIENDS BUT THE MOUNTAINS”

Please show our Kurdish brothers and sisters that isn’t true. Do everything you can. I beg you.

#RiseUp4Rojava

Written by Lee Brickley

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